Dark Forces Out For Steam

because DarkXL still has some major problems and is still just an alpha release

no secondary fire
level 4 can not be completed
problems with the music system
 
hmm, i thought it was released full and that's why he moved on to daggerxl, judging by how fast hes come with that i naturally assumed he was finished with darkxl.
 
javiermq said:
For anyone planning on buying this from steam, here are the problems each game of the pack has:

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/...ght-collection-not-fit-for-modern-systems.ars

See, that's one basic problem with steam. They dont test, check, modify, or do anything with whatever game they receive. They just toss it there and slap the steam client to the binary, thats it.
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Well that's not really steam's job, they distribute the game. Do you blame a retail store if your game doesn't work? No, Steam is how you get the game, they have nothing to do with the actual product them selves. Anyone who thinks that is a retard.
 
SirBaron said:
Well that's not really steam's job, they distribute the game. Do you blame a retail store if your game doesn't work? No, Steam is how you get the game, they have nothing to do with the actual product them selves. Anyone who thinks that is a retard.
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While that is true, its their name that gets dragged in the mud when a game bought on that system doesnt work right.
So in their own best interest, maybe they should have some QA that games must pass before they put it on the service, obviously that would introduce added costs and some delay before a product can be made available though.
But it IS their forums that fill up with angry people in the end.
 
jolle said:
While that is true, its their name that gets dragged in the mud when a game bought on that system doesnt work right.
So in their own best interest, maybe they should have some QA that games must pass before they put it on the service, obviously that would introduce added costs and some delay before a product can be made available though.
But it IS their forums that fill up with angry people in the end.
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Then why don't Retailers have the same restriction? Yes it would be nice but why should Valve have to pay out money to test the games they sell when other retailers don't have to?

You have the same problems with these games on direct2drive yet steam get's blamed?

:bleh:
 
SirBaron said:
Then why don't Retailers have the same restriction? Yes it would be nice but why should Valve have to pay out money to test the games they sell when other retailers don't have to?

You have the same problems with these games on direct2drive yet steam get's blamed?

:bleh:
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How it should be, and how it really is, are two different things though.
Its not really valves fault, but they´re getting the heat (probably by customers buying on Steam, the D2D customers are probably raging at D2d).
So if they DO get the flak for other companies products on their service, maybe they should do something about that.
They cant do anything about people not reading the warning about how these old games might not work well (or reading it, thinking it cant happen to them, then get angry when it does), or being morons in general, but they CAN do something about what they allow on the service.
if they HAD a stricter QA policy, they could just hand the bill to the publisher of the product for the QA.. well, you´d think they could atleast..

On the other hand, that would probably lead to less publishers putting up old titles on the service, if they had to pay a QA fee, and have to rummage around ancient source code to guarantee it runs right.
 
So far...

Dark Forces runs fine, albiet ...WOW..pixels are 2mmx2mm! (makes it hard to see things)

Jedi Knight runs fine, but I had to reconfigure a lot of controls and settings. Also, anytime I go to the menu/force powers/external map, the game goes windowed (640x480). Also, FMVs are windowed.

I'm pretty sure Outcast and Academy will run fine since I've been playing those with my club for years.
 
necropimp said:
that's because the game runs at 320x240
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Yup. Hard to believe we used to play games at that resolution. Brings me back though...winter of 1994. Dark Forces: CD game I copied (back when blank CD's were $12 each!)

What's really wild: I played through the Nar Shadda level of Jedi Knight, and remembered where all six of the secrets were.
 
jolle said:
While that is true, its their name that gets dragged in the mud when a game bought on that system doesnt work right.
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Meh, only from a few vocal idiots on forums and people with anti-Steam hardons who will use any little thing as an excuse to complain about the service (I think we're familiar with a few of those...).

I think the majority of Steam users understand that they're ultimately just a store like EBGames and it's still up to consumer to actually do a little research on what they're buying.

In this case, it should be obvious to people that running a 12 year old game made during the formitive years of DirectX might be troublesome on modern systems.

It sucks that Lucasarts did nothing to update the game and if some forum posters are to be believed, they can't update the game because the original source code is lost. However, the way I look at it, I'd rather have the game available, even in it's decrepit state, than not at all.

Bires said:
What's really wild: I played through the Nar Shadda level of Jedi Knight, and remembered where all six of the secrets were.
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It's crazy what things can get deeply ingrained in your mind, especially if you played the game during formative years. I still remember most of the Talan language from Outcast
 
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Sweetz said:
Meh, only from a few vocal idiots on forums and people with anti-Steam hardons who will use any little thing as an excuse to complain about the service (I think we're familiar with a few of those...).

I think the majority of Steam users understand that they're ultimately just a store like EBGames and it's still up to consumer to actually do a little research on what they're buying.

In this case, it should be obvious to people that running a 12 year old game made during the formitive years of DirectX might be troublesome on modern systems.

It sucks that Lucasarts did nothing to update the game and if some forum posters are to be believed, they can't update the game because the original source code is lost. However, the way I look at it, I'd rather have the game available, even in it's decrepit state, than not at all.


It's crazy what things can get deeply ingrained in your mind, especially if you played the game during formative years. I still remember most of the Talan language from Outcast
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Vary in formative. :yes:
 
necro time :drool:

I encountered a bug on the Ice level. this is the steam version the only difference is I updated dosbox from 0.73 to 0.74.

If i stop (and i do mean stop, not step) on the slippery ice surface, I cannot move on ice anymore. Well, i can, but it takes 5 mins to cover a few feet.

And once this occurs, as soon as i touch any slippery surface again without a restart, same thing happens.

This is my config if that means anything.

Code: 
[sdl]
fullscreen=true
fulldouble=false
fullresolution=1680x1050
output=ddraw

[render]
scaler=hq2x
aspect=true

[cpu]
cycles=auto

[mixer]
rate=49716
blocksize=4096
prebuffer=30

[sblaster]
sbtype=sb16
sbbase=220
irq=7
dma=1
hdma=5
sbmixer=true
oplmode=auto
oplemu=default
oplrate=49716

[joystick]
joysticktype=none

[serial]
serial1=disabled
serial2=disabled

[autoexec]
@echo off
mount c game
c:
dark
exit

Any ideas would be appreciated :up:
 
yeah, im going through the whole jedi knight collection on steam... jedi academy excluded :p

no kyle katarn= no love from me :mad:

It took me a while to research and downloading everything needed to make them all work properly though, so you have been warned. besides Jedi outcast, the first two games require tweaking.
 
i would love to get a really decent source port for dark forces. also a controls update for shadows of the empire.
 
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