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pax said:
2$ CAD a liter going to 3$ by summer. Thats ~12$ a gallon. Im parking the truck and walken... because... you know... anyway... its good for you.
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this looks like fun

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:bleh:

if it hits 12 bucks a gallon i'll quite and go on welfare :nuts:
 
I have tiny gastank in the Rav4 and it can cost up to 130$ to fill up. Tho usually I fill up before its dead empty fuel pump and all, I did run over 100$ for ~50 out of the 65 liters recently. :nuts:
 
bill dennison said:
cheap :lol:

well first since 99.9% of houses in the US are not set up to charge a car or truck

LEAF starts at 27k and needs 30 Amp breaker for a level 2 home charger

the Lighting starts at 41k and goes to 65k+ fast need a 45 Amp or 100 Amp breaker for a home charger

so add 2500 to 6000 for a new service and breaker box and running a wire to the garage or carport
and 25k to 55k for solar
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Just get an EV... -Butigedge or whatever his name is... ****ing clown. :lol:
 
Hybrid Ioniq get's 50 mpg
Hybrid Pacifica get's 32 mpg with 32 miles EV range
Hybrid Niro get's 50 mpg

Gas here hit 4.99 a couple of days ago. Back down to 4.89.

I'm not really feeling to much pain at this point.

A few years back when gas jumped up I sold the Mustang GT and the Honda CRV and went hybrid.

I could see where it was going.

Wife just switched to a new school that is 8 miles away. With the Pacifica 32 mile electric range she won't be burning gas at all.

Average gas milage of US personal vehicles is 25.4mpg. :lol: :lol:
 
The only EV that would really make sense for us right now would be an R1T or Lightning as the truck is getting lots of miles these days, and will be the primary hauler for the wife’s business. The numbers don’t really work for us though, unless someone takes pity and gives us the vehicle lol.

That, and I really want one…but needs>wants at the moment.
 
Nunz said:
Lots of European countries rejecting Russian fuel/gas is pushing their demand on to the suppliers the U.S. mainly use.
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It's all one big market. Customers who are willing to take Russian petroleum will reduce their demand on US production which should free up that supply for those that refuse to get anything from Russia. It should mostly just equalize itself out.

Haven't sold any cars I just tend to drive the v8 only a day or two out of the week and stick with my 4cyl commuter most of the time.
 
Renocide said:
Hybrid Ioniq get's 50 mpg
Hybrid Pacifica get's 32 mpg with 32 miles EV range
Hybrid Niro get's 50 mpg

Gas here hit 4.99 a couple of days ago. Back down to 4.89.

I'm not really feeling to much pain at this point.

A few years back when gas jumped up I sold the Mustang GT and the Honda CRV and went hybrid.

I could see where it was going.

Wife just switched to a new school that is 8 miles away. With the Pacifica 32 mile electric range she won't be burning gas at all.

Average gas milage of US personal vehicles is 25.4mpg. :lol: :lol:
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a f150 supercrew 3.5l powerboost full hybrid v6 engine set up just like the Lighting and gets 24 MPG and costs 65K
that is about 2 MPG more than i get in my nissan frontier or not once i put racks and tool on the F150 :lol:

hybrid truck is not really worth it when the Lighting is only 15K more
 
bill dennison said:
a f150 supercrew 3.5l powerboost full hybrid v6 engine set up just like the Lighting and gets 24 MPG and costs 65K
that is about 2 MPG more than i get in my nissan frontier or not once i put racks and tool on the F150 :lol:

hybrid truck is not really worth it when the Lighting is only 15K more
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If you need one for work I can understand but if anyone is driving around with a V8 as their personal vehicle...get your head checked.

You should have seen the writing on the wall years ago.

I remember a few years ago after I just got the Niro a guy pulled up next to me at the pumps and saw the Niro...

"You know those are not quality cars and those batteries are going to fail and end up in a land fill and this truck is going to go on forever, right?"

He was driving some jacked giant Ford truck probably getting 15 mpg.

I just said "Sure." and drove on.

I'm still driving that Niro with 180k miles on it with zero issues.

I figure that dude is somewhere right now bitching about gas prices. :lol:

If I had a "normal" mpg car for the US those 180k miles would have cost me around $26k dollars in fuel where as the Niro cost me $12k.

And the car was only $24k when I purchased it.
 
Some people can afford to pay for the fuel, don't put a lot of miles on cars, or have a second car for daily driver duty.

Not sure why I need my 'head checked' because I might fall into one or more of the above categories.
 
Riptide said:
Some people can afford to pay for the fuel, don't put a lot of miles on cars, or have a second car for daily driver duty.

Not sure why I need my 'head checked' because I might fall into one or more of the above categories.
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It helps them feel good about their electric :lol:
 
Riptide said:
Some people can afford to pay for the fuel, don't put a lot of miles on cars, or have a second car for daily driver duty.

Not sure why I need my 'head checked' because I might fall into one or more of the above categories.
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Then you're not complaining about the fuel issue and it wouldn't apply.

Obviously.

Right?
 
Nunz said:
It helps them feel good about their electric :lol:
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Obviously.

BUT, don't restrict it...I FEEL GREAT ABOUT MY ELECTRIC.

I'm not on here crying about the price of petrol.

AND saving money.

What's NOT to feel great about?

:)
 
Renocide said:
Obviously.

BUT, don't restrict it...I FEEL GREAT ABOUT MY ELECTRIC.

I'm not on here crying about the price of petrol.

AND saving money.

What's NOT to feel great about?

:)
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:hmm:

wait till cost of electricity per kwh doubles or more and it will when the brown outs start all over
more electric cars charging on the grid the more brown outs the higher cost of electricity will go

or wait till those power outages and brown outs start killing people on medical device or from high or low temps
how will that feel :hmm:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...uble-for-u-s-families-with-fuel-costs-surging

and why i'm getting full solar system to charge the truck
 
bill dennison said:
so add 2500 to 6000 for a new service and breaker box and running a wire to the garage or carport
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WTF are you talking about? My house had existing 200 amp service. All I needed to do was have a 60 amp breaker installed with wiring to my garage for my Tesla Wall Connector. I paid $1100 for the electrical and $500 for the Wall Connector

It would have been $500+ less had I gone with a 50 amp breaker, had a NEMA 14-50 outlet installed, and used the mobile connector that came with the car.

The reason I didn't is that the mobile connector on a 50 amp circuit will only charge about 30 miles per hour. The Wall Connector can do 44 miles per hour on the 60 amp circuit.

bill dennison said:
wait till cost of electricity per kwh doubles or more and it will when the brown outs start all over
more electric cars charging on the grid the more brown outs the higher cost of electricity will go

or wait till those power outages and brown outs start killing people on medical device or from high or low temps
how will that feel :hmm:
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It's much easier to take conversations like this seriously without Chicken Little posts like this trying to convince people the sky is falling.
 
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bill dennison said:
:hmm:

wait till cost of electricity per kwh doubles or more and it will when the brown outs start all over
more electric cars charging on the grid the more brown outs the higher cost of electricity will go

or wait till those power outages and brown outs start killing people on medical device or from high or low temps
how will that feel :hmm:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...uble-for-u-s-families-with-fuel-costs-surging

and why i'm getting full solar system to charge the truck
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I drive hybrid cars except the van and it only has the capacity to go 32 miles on EV. I don't rely heavily on electric.

If you really want to protect the grid from overuse you need to advocate for people to STOP ****ING HAVING KIDS.

Nothing weighs heavier on the grid that more people.

I completely understand your concern for the people on medical devices and will miss you when you shut down your PC to help them out during the extreme heat this summer.
You're a good man Bill.
 
the problem here is, that instead of providing the needed infrastructure for that many EVs in a first step, the politicians promote to buy EVs and THEN _start_ to think about the infrastructure they need for them. Which is sadly the way it goes almost every time.......which alread led to charging problems all over the place. People start to get frustrated with their pricey gimmicks. Mind you only ~45% here own a house, so even charging at HOME is an issue for many people.
 
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