Google Stadia

Athena

Athena

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Some thoughts
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bandwidth and lag

What do you think? With the way Google dumps their services are you looking to give them your money on this one and risk losing access in the future?
 
Absolute no go if you have any cap on your service, 1TB is fast becoming not enough for a month. First day of the month I used 150Gb with use and downloading RDR2.
 
Garbage like all other attempts at this. It will never work unless we have quantum entangled internet where distance no longer matters as ping as not a factor. But by all means im sure theres those who cant "see the lag" and can enjoy delayed movements, same kinds of people who play on tvs with input set to normal instead of game.
 
Everyone completely misunderstands these game streaming services. It's not about games. It's about stress-testing a proposal for the future of computing, where all of your processing happens in a server farm and the screen is streamed. I know we've been hearing this proposal for decades, but it's going to happen in the next 10 years.

"What about lag?" - Latency won't be a problem, as they'll start building out smaller server farms in your neighborhood. The server farm will probably sit at the end of your street and look something like this:
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There won't be any lag, because all of this will essentially be running over a really fast local network that covers a few blocks of your neighborhood.
 
None of it will happen unless they remove caps from your internet connection like they didn't have years ago.:bleh:
 
We won't have data caps for much longer. The new wireless network infrastructure is basically designed to kill comcast.
 
clerick said:
If you're talking about teslas internet everywhere, that thing will have ping larger than wired?
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Nope, and nope.

I'm talking about 5g. Done right, with a mature network, 5g slaughters google fiber (I've seen reports of people getting 15gb/s, at close range with line-of-sight). There's been alot of talk about how 5g is really targeted toward home internet, and cellphones are just a bonus... it's designed to run very high bandwidth, for many users simultaneously.

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I wasn't talking about SpaceX's telecommunications network, but fyi, Starlink won't be anywhere near the latency that we usually associate with satellite internet, as they're low-orbit satellites (which is why they need 12,000 of them). The Starlink satellites are orbiting between 200-700 miles above the earth's surface, compared to 22,000 miles for a traditional geosynchronous satellite. If we assume Starlink satellites are orbiting at 700 miles altitude, the signal should make 1 trip in about 1 millisecond. If we assume a minimum of 4 trips:
  1. request sent from client(on earth) to satellite
  2. request sent to server (on earth)
  3. response sent from server (on earth) to satellite
  4. response sent from satellite to client (on earth)
we're looking at adding only 4ms additional latency. In reality it's likely a bit more, especially if the signal is being routed between satellites around the planet, but it's nowhere near the latency of traditional satellite internet... probably at least an order of magnitude different.

Edit: Musk claims that the overall latency on the Starlink network will be under 20ms.
https://spacenews.com/musk-says-starlink-economically-viable-with-around-1000-satellites/
 
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Doc told me yesterday some EU countries are already pulling 5g due to early reports it has worse effects on the human body than the old microwave cellphones did. And it did not even get rolled out yet in those places. Any one else heard about that? Going to try and find it on searches today once I get a break on the trouble tickets here at work.
 
Athena said:
Doc told me yesterday some EU countries are already pulling 5g due to early reports it has worse effects on the human body than the old microwave cellphones did. And it did not even get rolled out yet in those places. Any one else heard about that? Going to try and find it on searches today once I get a break on the trouble tickets here at work.
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Quick google search on health effects of millimeter waves:

https://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/is-5g-dangerous/
Is 5G dangerous? We asked an expert
Is the 5G spectrum harmful to our health? Experts say, 'Don't freak out'
 
So I found a ton of info on how bad 5G will be like you all said people are freaking out. This guy does the best job of distilling it all down into easy to read and digest info:
https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/scientific-studies/

These discussions do remind me of when I worked at ma bell in the 90s and they sent out the company wide memo to all of managers to stop carrying the company Moto flip phones in our pants pockets as it was found it was causing a sharp decline in the amount of children the management staff were producing. Yet the customer side communication line was the phones where totally safe.
 
is the 5G health situation one where exposure is based on an unrealistic like 20hrs per day, 7 days a week and standing right underneath the beams as it constantly bombards you in one place at its strongest emission where the result is that it increases the risk of cancer by 1%?
 
Athena said:
So I found a ton of info on how bad 5G will be like you all said people are freaking out. This guy does the best job of distilling it all down into easy to read and digest info:
https://www.radiationhealthrisks.com/scientific-studies/

These discussions do remind me of when I worked at ma bell in the 90s and they sent out the company wide memo to all of managers to stop carrying the company Moto flip phones in our pants pockets as it was found it was causing a sharp decline in the amount of children the management staff were producing. Yet the customer side communication line was the phones where totally safe.
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He's a hack.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/science/5g-cellphones-wireless-cancer.html
 
Athena said:
These discussions do remind me of when I worked at ma bell in the 90s and they sent out the company wide memo to all of managers to stop carrying the company Moto flip phones in our pants pockets as it was found it was causing a sharp decline in the amount of children the management staff were producing.
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How will they get new managers if the existing managers aren't reproducing?
 
Got my Stadia today. Hooked it up. Spent the past few hours playing.

It's rough. You can only use the Chromecast it comes with, not others that you might already have if you wanted to disconnect from one TV and go to another room. There's features still missing, limited games, etc.

But with a solid internet connection, hard wired hopefully, it works surprisingly well. It's sort of crazy how well Destiny 2 plays on this thing. There's a tiny tiny bit of lag there, so sniping isn't as easy as it might be, but otherwise it's hard to tell it's not a local game.
 
shrike126 said:
Got my Stadia today. Hooked it up. Spent the past few hours playing.

It's rough. You can only use the Chromecast it comes with, not others that you might already have if you wanted to disconnect from one TV and go to another room. There's features still missing, limited games, etc.

But with a solid internet connection, hard wired hopefully, it works surprisingly well. It's sort of crazy how well Destiny 2 plays on this thing. There's a tiny tiny bit of lag there, so sniping isn't as easy as it might be, but otherwise it's hard to tell it's not a local game.
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Now I know why this latest expansion was so meh. They spent so much time working on Stadia. A lot of people are complaining of lag locally now in the game that didn't exist before. I haven't noticed it, but reddit has a ton of complaints.
 
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