Halp with 290x problem

I think I did once and it was so long ago it doesn't matter any more. This weekend has been a **** show. At this point I'm pricing out some lower i5's, MSI boards, and gonna have to figure out what to do about RAM, probably Gskill or Crucial.
 
Indeed this is going to happen.

Looking at an i5 7400 (I don't overclock so not a biggie here)
MSI H270 M3 or maybe the Z270 M3
Gskill Ripjaws V 2400

Once that arrives do some more testing. If the 290 works great, if not 270 till further notice.
 
if ur not OCing go with the H270 - should be cheaper. you should have mentioned that you bent pins on the CPU beforehand and saved anyone recommending a new PSU. it's amazing the setup has ran fine for as long as it has considering it's been broken the entire time.
 
I put the PSU in question from the beginning, upon doing further research the CX line is mediocre unless you're running mid range stuff. I'm happier with the EVGA anyway, most of the cables are longer making it easier to route things.

The CPU pins were bent on Saturday, the entire time hasn't been since 2014 when I built the machine.
 
You are running mid-range stuff. The old PSU would have been fine. The EVGA is miles and miles ahead of the CX (and basically every PSU Corsair has on the market) so it was still a good move, but when you need to budget a new board/chip/ram, spending unnecessarily kinda sucks. The money that went into the PSU could potentially move that 7400 into a 7600.
 
Nunz said:
You are running mid-range stuff. The old PSU would have been fine. The EVGA is miles and miles ahead of the CX (and basically every PSU Corsair has on the market) so it was still a good move, but when you need to budget a new board/chip/ram, spending unnecessarily kinda sucks. The money that went into the PSU could potentially move that 7400 into a 7600.
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I can't argue that point as it's a good one. I'm going to try and get the 290 running with the new hardware, I'm really hoping that in this case it was a crap motherboard. It'll be here Wednesday and I've already gutted the old machine. I'll admit that I could have gone for the 7600 if I had wanted to, but for the most part I don't do anything that has that high a demand. The next logical step for me is a higher resolution screen which will demand beefier guts. The 270 did a good job with The Division and Doom with a decent amount of stuff turned up on the 7850 I had. Hell even the APU alone could do Titanfall (got both close to their respective release dates) in 1080 on medium high settings and was smooth. Next big thing is Mass Effect Andromeda and from what people say Frostbite is a nice lightweight engine.
 
I'm kind of surprised you're getting an MSI when your GF's board apparently didn't even manage to run the AMD cards. If anything it seems like your experience with MSI is even worse than with ASRock? Not even managing to POST is not a strong argument in favor of MSI.

I'm not also sure whether buying new equipment is the best approach at this point (although I guess you already went forward with it). Personally, I would have tried a lot harder to verify the 290 was working properly before replacing everything. That's especially true because it sounds like you're on a budget, and right now is a pretty poor time to upgrade. Even if you don't go with Ryzen it should help push prices down, especially on the lower end i5s.

I'd still consider taking the card over to a friend, or maybe even bringing it in to a repair shop and having them test it, before putting a new machine together, only to potentially find out the card is the culprit.
 
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I'm kind of surprised you're getting an MSI when your GF's board apparently didn't even manage to run the AMD cards. If anything it seems like your experience with MSI is even worse than with ASRock? Not even managing to POST is not a strong argument in favor of MSI.

I'm not also sure whether buying new equipment is the best approach at this point (although I guess you already went forward with it). Personally, I would have tried a lot harder to verify the 290 was working properly before replacing everything. That's especially true because it sounds like you're on a budget, and right now is a pretty poor time to upgrade. Even if you don't go with Ryzen it should help push prices down, especially on the lower end i5s.

I'd still consider taking the card over to a friend, or maybe even bringing it in to a repair shop and having them test it, before putting a new machine together, only to potentially find out the card is the culprit.
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It's an old MSI board, i5 2500 era so that's now...5 generations ago? The GTX 570 is of the same era as the board and CPU so I'd expect it to work properly. I doubt that's an MSI problem. If I had more people readily available I'd have tried more, if I hadn't dropped the CPU and bent around a dozen pins (no **** and bending them back was a bitch) I'd have had more time to find friends to try with too. When I say **** show, I mean a ****ing **** show.

I've had an MSI board in the past back when they were making solid red PCBs it did well for its lifespan. This Asrock has always been a bit flaky, it didn't like the first 8 gigs of RAM I had to I bugged a forumite to get me something else and he came through, that stuff worked like a champ. There were a few other things over the last few years too, and yes if it still worked properly I wouldn't have bothered upgrading. I can tolerate not having a flagship video card. I can't tolerate an entire RAM slot half working for seemingly no reason after reseating the CPU a couple times. I mentioned in a previous post I wonder if ASRock is the new Abit. It takes a few tried to get a good one but when you do it's ****ing great.
 
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Got all my crap today and everything is assembled running the 290x, I've got GPU-z doing rendering stuff as I type this. Comp booted and has been running well so far. Seems maybe there were a couple problems with the previous motherboard. GPU-z sez things are running at PCI-e 3.0 x16.

Moral of the story: Not sure if FM2+ based system or crap motherboard, but buy good ****.
 
Awesome news!

I've been through system hell before and probably most of us here as well. One of the reasons why now I have multiple systems. If one blows up or has issues it is very easy to recover, find the core issue and not stop what you want to do.

Plus you being very persistent and worked through the issues you have a much better and hopefully much more reliable system that will work for years to come. Now are you going to OC that I5 7400? You can you know.
 
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First I need to get Windows 10 reactivated, then I'm going to look into a modest overclock of stuff. I probably should have gone with faster RAM but I was in a hurry.

I'm half tempted to go back to 7 then track down my ISO to reinstall. I'm not happy with this plan but it might be easier than dealing with MS support.
 
Just got off the chat with Microsoft, come to find out that the desired key for Win 10 if it was a free upgrade from 7, is the Win 7 key. This made me feel so dumb cause it never occurred to me to try it nor is this bit of info in the knowledgebase that I could find. Take note.
 
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Just got off the chat with Microsoft, come to find out that the desired key for Win 10 if it was a free upgrade from 7, is the Win 7 key. This made me feel so dumb cause it never occurred to me to try it nor is this bit of info in the knowledgebase that I could find. Take note.
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I don't think the free upgrade is available anymore. Looks like Win 7 will be it since you have a new mobo and CPU I don't think Microsoft will recognize that as a re-install but as a new computer. So did the Win 7 key work?
 
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I don't think the free upgrade is available anymore. Looks like Win 7 will be it since you have a new mobo and CPU I don't think Microsoft will recognize that as a re-install but as a new computer. So did the Win 7 key work?
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It is via the accessibility upgrade offer and IIRC it still takes Win 7+ keys during activation.
 
What Seyiji said. Since you're installing 10 over 7 it just uses the old key. Once the free upgrade is acquired the ISO for the upgrade is still available. Hence I'm running 10 v 14xxx rather than 15xxx or 16xxx.
 
Didn't know that, so I can load Win 7 on new rig and then 10 and it will activate? The Win 7 I have is an OEM copy though which was updated to Win 8 Pro (appears to be full version) then to Win 10 free.

I guess I could try on next build to see if it works.

I already have a spare Win 10 Home on my bookcase unwrapped full version :lol:.
 
ASCI Blue said:
What Seyiji said. Since you're installing 10 over 7 it just uses the old key. Once the free upgrade is acquired the ISO for the upgrade is still available. Hence I'm running 10 v 14xxx rather than 15xxx or 16xxx.
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Win 10 should update automatically to 16xxx in due time I would think.
 
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Didn't know that, so I can load Win 7 on new rig and then 10 and it will activate? The Win 7 I have is an OEM copy though which was updated to Win 8 Pro (appears to be full version) then to Win 10 free.

I guess I could try on next build to see if it works.

I already have a spare Win 10 Home on my bookcase unwrapped full version :lol:.
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Uummm... It might work with the 7 key, it might work with 8's key depending how things were done. If I were you trying this, I'd have both keys handy. Short answer is yes it should work.

I would think so too although I'm not sure I want 16, I liked the 15 series more.
 
Did not know that at all with the Freebie Win 10. I will probably just sell or give away motherboard, ram, cpu, ssd with reset Win 10. That is when ever I upgrade either Ryzen or Skylake E for main rig.
 
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