Mandrake is pretty nifty

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Just installed Mandrake 8.0, typing this from there actually, been a long time since I've installed linux, man, have things changed. Much more user friendly. No more command line editing of partition table values, no more guess the lilo config. No more of the endless text scrolling for selecting applications to install. Well, at least with this paticular distribution and only as a 'yet'. :)

I have no need for the OS so I will play around with it and then delete it, but I do like to check in every now and again to see how it's doing.

All it really needs is proper hardware support and maybe some better 2D platforms for the desktop than X, 1600x1200x32 is about half as fast as Windows. Basic scrolls are about the same, but overall impression is of it being slower. Obviously it know what card I have otherwise I wouldn't be using 1600xx1200. Which is a large step up from editing text files.

Konqueror rocks.
 
get beos, free.be.com The community needs all the support they can get. You know you've always wanted to play 4 tracks off the same cd, 2 forwards, 1 1/2 speed, and the other backwards at the same time, (whilst playing quake, and surfing)!
 
Thought Be was going out of business..

Nice OS, too much Mac influence though and it's not modular enough. It would be another try and delete thing for me, and I've run it in several incarnations already, full version. The best OS was AmigaOS, but that was too held back by people who wanted everything to remain the same.

Frankly, I don't have much hope for any alternative OS for mainstream use, Windows is the standard, and MS controls the standard. Even if linux cloned the Windows user experience totally, there is still a problem of hardware support. Getting hardware support when MS goes out of it's way to force hardware manufacturers to support more and more variations of the same OS is next to impossible.

The only way for alternative operating systems to take off is if they were all based on a common standard that is used in the mainstream. There shouldn't be a need for different drivers from one version of Windows to the next, nor from one OS to the next. The basic driver model should be the same, at a binary level and a basic interface level. If MS didn't want every buck it could get you'd be able to upgrade your current OS for additional functionality in a modular fashion, but no, they want you to keep buying new versions of Windows instead. For example, you should be able to use any filesystem with an operating system. There has been enough experience out there in the market for common generic API to be used for more than SVGA for video cards and ATAPI for ide drives.Where is the ATAPI/SVGA for sound cards? You should be able to take a driver base from one OS and use it under any operating system using the same basic platform. Breaking up MS won't do anything, what is needed is a leveling of the playing field through open standards defined by a committee of different industry players and controlled by same. MS has a monopoly yes, but because it controls a standard, no just from oem business tactics.

My $02
 
i just ordered mandrake off the internet and need a question answered

i just ordered mandrake off the internet and need a question answered

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i have a win modem. and i know in linux you cannot use it due to the fact it is not a full modem. that and USRobotics doesn't hand out the driver for them for linux. i have seen a thing called vmware the lets you boot multiple OS'S on top of linux. my question is if i use that to to use my win modem can i use it in linux if i minimize that os. just a thought that is gonna drive me up the wall.:cool:
 
So maybe that's why I had a Hell of a time configuring PPP in Mandrake. This time around I'm going with Red Hat 7 and I've got a cable modem.
 
I am in Mandrake 8 right now. What browser are you using? Konqueror kept crashing on me. Mozilla and Netscape both sucked. I am using Galeon right now and really like it. It seems to render things alittle different every now and then, but I dont think you would notice if you hadn't seen the page in another browser. The thing I like best about Galeon is it allows you to hit F11 to get a true Fullscreen view that is nothing but webpage. That is the only thing I missed from IE.

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IE has that feature if you put everything on autohide....

i just burned Mandrake 8, waiting to buy a new case/hard drive to install it
 
If you want a cheap modem with alternative OS support get a PCtel or Lucent chipset. Rockwell / USR couldn't give a toss for non MS users!
 
Even non-winmodems have given me grief in Linux. But everything else seems to run fine.

I'm just finishing up my first install of Mandrake and I'm really impressed. In the past I've always installed some version of Redhat. But even RH's most recent installs are kind of touch and go. Mandrake has been nothing but a nice and smooth install. Very user friendly :)
 
Linux likes external modems as it hates internal ones. ;-)


Can anybody help me with my RADEON ? I cannot start my X Server. I am using Mandrake 8.0 with XFree86 4.1.0 (update recently). Kernel is 2.4.3.

Here are my hardware specs:
MSI K7 (MS-6195) with AMD IRONGATE chipset
AMD K7 700
ATI RADEON 64DDR VIVO (OEM)
and SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 520 TFT

I had no problems with my old TNT2. And however RED HAT 7.1 can start a low resolution X Server during initial installation. As soon as it detects my RADEON (as "generic") and SAMSUNG it will FREEZE during the X Server test. The Screen becomes something like you will get when selecting the false refresh rate. What I cannot understand is the freez up. Everytime I have to do a hardware reset and this is pretty annoying. On Red Hat 7.0, however, the X Server (with XFree86 4.0.2) did not freeze, it just constantly crashed until the server gave himself a 1 minute brake and started over with crashing. :)

HEEEEELLLLLPPPP PLEASE. I WANT MY GNOME DESKTOP BACK !!!!



Predator out!
Resistance is futile.
 
i have ordered linux a while ago and i still have not recieved it. i am somewhat impatient and was wondering if someone in the us was willing to burn it if i paid for shipping? you can email me if you are interested at [email protected] .
 
Predator said:
Linux likes external modems as it hates internal ones. ;-)


Can anybody help me with my RADEON ? I cannot start my X Server. I am using Mandrake 8.0 with XFree86 4.1.0 (update recently). Kernel is 2.4.3.

Here are my hardware specs:
MSI K7 (MS-6195) with AMD IRONGATE chipset
AMD K7 700
ATI RADEON 64DDR VIVO (OEM)
and SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 520 TFT

I had no problems with my old TNT2. And however RED HAT 7.1 can start a low resolution X Server during initial installation. As soon as it detects my RADEON (as "generic") and SAMSUNG it will FREEZE during the X Server test. The Screen becomes something like you will get when selecting the false refresh rate. What I cannot understand is the freez up. Everytime I have to do a hardware reset and this is pretty annoying. On Red Hat 7.0, however, the X Server (with XFree86 4.0.2) did not freeze, it just constantly crashed until the server gave himself a 1 minute brake and started over with crashing. :)

HEEEEELLLLLPPPP PLEASE. I WANT MY GNOME DESKTOP BACK !!!!



Predator out!
Resistance is futile.
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How did you get your KDE back after upgrading to 4.1.0 xfree? All I get is xterm! I also can not get Q3A to run either...says I'm missing the default.cfg.
 
Predator said:
Linux likes external modems as it hates internal ones. ;-)


Can anybody help me with my RADEON ? I cannot start my X Server. I am using Mandrake 8.0 with XFree86 4.1.0 (update recently). Kernel is 2.4.3.

Here are my hardware specs:
MSI K7 (MS-6195) with AMD IRONGATE chipset
AMD K7 700
ATI RADEON 64DDR VIVO (OEM)
and SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER 520 TFT

I had no problems with my old TNT2. And however RED HAT 7.1 can start a low resolution X Server during initial installation. As soon as it detects my RADEON (as "generic") and SAMSUNG it will FREEZE during the X Server test. The Screen becomes something like you will get when selecting the false refresh rate. What I cannot understand is the freez up. Everytime I have to do a hardware reset and this is pretty annoying. On Red Hat 7.0, however, the X Server (with XFree86 4.0.2) did not freeze, it just constantly crashed until the server gave himself a 1 minute brake and started over with crashing. :)

HEEEEELLLLLPPPP PLEASE. I WANT MY GNOME DESKTOP BACK !!!!



Predator out!
Resistance is futile.
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Don't do the X Server test when you are setting it up, most new cards don't like to have their clocks probed and that's what the test is doing.
 
Spyderman2003 said:
i have ordered linux a while ago and i still have not recieved it. i am somewhat impatient and was wondering if someone in the us was willing to burn it if i paid for shipping? you can email me if you are interested at [email protected] .
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It's not in the US but this guy is the guy I get all my Linux' from. Just send him an email, tell him what you want and he'll send a CD to you on the honour system. You send him back a cheque or money order or something. I believe he also has an online order system now as well. $5.00 per CD, no shipping charge and no taxes. He also donates to the FSF and SPI so by buying there you're directly supporting Linux itself.
Here is a direct link to his Linux CD ordering page, since his website is a little weird with the links and navigation.
 
i finally got mandrake 8 it was shoved in my mailbox. damn postman he is lucky it didn't bend or break. i can't play any 3d games because i have att for my internet and i shuting them off is i type but i can't understand why it won't detect my new pctel modem i just popped in. it says it can't set up a winmodem when it is not. it is a actual hardware modem. thanks for the info tho i would have done it had it not just arrived. i still might due to help support the linux community. damn i hate the cvs at the minute won't let me download in windows to get my drivers
 
Spyderman2003 said:
i finally got mandrake 8 it was shoved in my mailbox. damn postman he is lucky it didn't bend or break. i can't play any 3d games because i have att for my internet and i shuting them off is i type but i can't understand why it won't detect my new pctel modem i just popped in. it says it can't set up a winmodem when it is not. it is a actual hardware modem. thanks for the info tho i would have done it had it not just arrived. i still might due to help support the linux community. damn i hate the cvs at the minute won't let me download in windows to get my drivers
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Go into your BIOS and set "Plug and Play OS Installed" to "No". The BIOS will then handle setting up the hardware modem and Linux should be able to see it. It shouldn't affect Windows either. Also, if your modem is a hardware modem it might have jumpers on it so you can set the COM port and IRQ manually. If not, then open up Device Manager in Windows and go to the Resources tab for the modem and jot down the COM port and IRQ address it's using. Then you can help Linux find where exactly the modem is. Hope that helps.
 
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