"No Tuner Card Found"

Tuxedo_Mask

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Hello Rage3d

I have a Diamond All in Wonder HD Graphics Card installed on a eMachinces t6216 (upgraded 3800 DualCore Processor, 3.5gig of ram) Last week the TV Tuner worked inside of Catalyst Media Center, but yesterday it gave me the error message "No Tuner Card Found". I checked the device manager and it stated that my card was working properly. I have the drivers from diamondmm.com, but I am not sure if I should be using drivers from the ATI page? or the dated ones from the Diamond page? Other than the horrid memory leak its given my computer, the carad has worked great.

http://www.diamondmm.com/AIWHDPM.php
 
Hello Rage3d

I have a Diamond All in Wonder HD Graphics Card installed on a eMachinces t6216 (upgraded 3800 DualCore Processor, 3.5gig of ram) Last week the TV Tuner worked inside of Catalyst Media Center, but yesterday it gave me the error message "No Tuner Card Found". I checked the device manager and it stated that my card was working properly. I have the drivers from diamondmm.com, but I am not sure if I should be using drivers from the ATI page? or the dated ones from the Diamond page? Other than the horrid memory leak its given my computer, the carad has worked great.

http://www.diamondmm.com/AIWHDPM.php
Hey, I haven't used or really been very interested in that card ....too little too late from AMD/ATI, so I dont' know if it has specific problems like what you experienced. But, unless otherwise stated somewhere the drivers should be the same (see if there are any special hotfixes etc. though). Sounds like you need to un-install both the card and the drivers and try again. Although likely you will not have the same headaches of the original A-I-W cards I'd still suggest you use something like Driver Cleaner Pro after you Un-Install via Windows program removal (and un-installing the card). Then after all the restarts are done... Re-install the card and the software. If you got rid of all the hooks in the software (and) the tuner on the card is truly functioning normally, and with a bit of luck you'll be back up and running.
 
...I don't have a HD4550, a X1650Pro, nor a x1300XT i've gone through my settings 10 X can't find where that is. first it said X1300XT ...must be a ranking inside joke thing, until you post more.

You can't have a custom user title until you reach 1000 posts or (IIRC) 1 year membership. Until then it climbs through different ATI graphics card models, getting newer and higher performance. No inside joke, just a bit of fun for all members, really.
 
ATI cards are good, drivers can sometimes be a PITA, & media software [CMC] is IMHO barely usable, but that's only because I'm feeling charitable this am.:drool:

When an app that uses a tuner (or any video input) card looks for available hardware, it doesn't look for/at devices themselves, i.e. whether they're there or not, but looks for what Windows offers. For tuner cards to work there's actually a chain of software components that has to be assembled... there's a Microsoft app called Graphedit [& a freeware app called Graphstudio] for manually displaying & building these chains, & it's somewhat common to hear people talk about media software "building a graph", meaning assembling the needed components in order. When software can't successfully put that chain together, you get no tuner found, no hardware found etc messages. To get the card (or whatever hardware) working, that's what you have to fix -- AND, often going thru an R & R (Remove & Reinstall) like DA1745 suggested does the trick. Normally software doesn't break on it's own -- how could it -- and failures are caused by something being deleted or something incompatible being added... a fresh install can (& will hopefully) put stuff back.

That said, cards using the ATI Theater chip aren't all that trouble-prone, & neither is CMC -- Catalyst Media Center has been 100% consistent, always delivering its rather (IMO) dismal experience -- but some CMC code is rather old, so adding software, especially from Cyberlink, can break it by replacing files &/or settings it relies on with something newer & incompatible. Trying your tuner in another app can & should tell you if the problem is confined to CMC or not.
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"I have the drivers from diamondmm.com, but I am not sure if I should be using drivers from the ATI page?"

You've very basically just got 2 cards piggybacked on the same board.

Diamond may be your only source (other than the original driver disc) for the CMC software, though it works best if you don't do the whole install, but rather drill down to the CMC folder & install just that. The graphics part of the card should use the standard driver packs from ATI, but I'd strongly suggest reading thru the CCC driver section here at Rage3d in case there's any relevant problems (or advantages) to a particular version. I'd also suggest browsing over at avsforum.com -- it's much more of a problem in XP, but Vista & 7 still suffer from Avivo woes... in a nutshell, ATI cards process all video with a bunch of features collectively called Avivo, & some options can only be either opened up or set thru the registry. Bear in mind that (& this varies with driver version) hardware video acceleration on ATI's HD cards can break all sorts of video-related things in ways that don't always seem to make sense... 1 driver version a ways back required turning off accel in wmplayer or else DivX playback failed in all players, while the previous version of GBPVR required accel in PowerDVD be set to off when finding QAM stations, but on for viewing.

For the Tuner the drivers on the ATI site should work fine, & depending on how old the version is you've gotten from Diamond, may have included worthwhile updates -- OTOH, while there's a new version up most months, that doesn't mean new Theater drivers, & often the only change is the date on the cat file or something equally as silly. The Theater chip drivers are included in the regular graphics card driver set-up pack, & offered by themselves -- once or twice I think they were different, so I make it a practice to always halt install after setup expands everything into the ATI source folder, & check it out [universal extractor also works]. The Theater chip driver files for the AIW & separate hardware are named differently, but the difference is very slight, so be careful.
 
Welcome to the CMC problems area.
You've made it here because your Catalyst Media Center is now broken.

I wish I could help you more and provide a specific fix for you, but so far everytime my CMC app breaks, its due to either a Microsoft Windows Update, or an ATI Update, or even updating Cyberlink PowerDVD on my system.

You may notice that just after Windows starts you get a message window in your Windows quick launch bar that states CLCAPSVC has failed to launch, or some similar message. This is the CyberLink CAPture SerViCe driver which allows the CMC application to recognize your Theater 650 card on your HD Wonder.

Other applications will still function while CMC causes itself to run in Multimedia Mode with 'No Tuner Found' mode. Other software such as Snapstream Beyond TV and Vista Media Center will still operate normally.

I am in the process of reinstalling a Fresh Install of Windows Vista Ultimate, SP1, Media Center 2008 Update, SP2, and finally the rest of the Windows Updates applicable to my system.

Then I will install my ATI Driver, My Soundblaster driver, and then Catalyst Media Center.

At this point I will configure and test Catalyst Media Center and then make a System Backup so that the next time my CMC Breaks, I can quickly revert to this clean installation point.

CMC has a tendency to break. Recovering is not always an easy task.

Good luck with your HD Wonder. All in all, its a pretty decent card. It's the software thats the problem.

I wish I could tell you what to do, in place I have told you what I am currently doing with my recent "No Tuner Found" CMC problem.

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The Clean install is done and I still have the ClCapSVC failed to load and in CMC I still have No Tuner Found.
I can only hope that with the Theater 750 there will be a software package backward compatible to the Theater 650 series so I can buy the new card for the software and either use the new card or return it if it is not what I need.

Install Order:
1) Windows Vista Ultimate 64 - installed
2) Windows Vista 64 SP1 - Installed
3) Windows Media Center 2008 - Update package Installed
4) Windows Vista 64 SP2 - Installed
5) Intel INF Chipset Driver (x58 V9.1.0.1012) - Installed
6) Intel Raid Media Accelerator (8.7.0.1007) - Installed
7) Realtek Lan Driver RTL8168B (ver. 6223) - Installed
8) Windows Activated
9) Windows Backup Created on Partition 2 - 7/21/2009 12:28am
10) Windows Update ran and all updates installed
11) Creative XFI driver 2.18.0013 - Installed
12) Catalyst 9.6 Video Driver - Installed
13) Catalyst Theater Driver 9.6 - Installed
14) Catalyst Media Center 1.0.4210 - Installed

At the end of the installation I immediately received a ClCapSVC has failed to load message.
The ClCapSVC failed to load message pops up on every subsequent reboot of my PC and any time I try to run CMC. During the Setup Wizard I receive a "No Tuner Found" message everytime CMC tries to detect my hardware.

CMC is a Broken application, obviously it is either broken by Windows Updates, It's Own Drivers, or by my Creative X-FI Extreme Music driver. Because thats all thats is installed on my computer, and the card used to work in this very same computer.

I like CMC but am resorting to using Snapstream which is a resource hog or Vista Media Center.

I wish ATI would fix things when it breaks, in a timely manner, and when it is so prone to breaking, to maybe have the software application, CMC, upgraded or replaced.
 
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