NV CES opening

[NWR_Midnight]

nope

I will wait for a good 55" VRR/Freesvnc one for half the price





https://www.techpowerup.com/251237/...reesync-vesa-adaptive-sync-technology-sort-of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

I call bullshit, if you look at the list, it looks more like they have "qualified" those that sponsored them. Example is the BenQ XL2740, it lists nothing about freesync in it's specs, however it does un-officially support it. It is NO difference than my BenQ XL2730z that does list it's support in it's specs, and has a higher resolution (1080p vs 1440p). That and the XL2740 does have a higher refresh rate (144 vs 240). Point is, they both use the same identical freesync technology, and will give identical experience.


Also, I suspect they originally tried to get Microsoft to disable the ability to use an AMD card in conjunction with an Nvidia card to get freesync monitors to work, and Microsoft told them to piss off, hence, why they are going this route, as they are trying to paint the new freesync support as a new feature since they can't disable people from doing it anyways.

 

[bill dennison]

I call bullshit, if you look at the list, it looks more like they have "qualified" those that sponsored them. Example is the BenQ XL2740, it lists nothing about freesync in it's specs, however it does un-officially support it. It is NO difference than my BenQ XL2730z that does list it's support in it's specs, and has a higher resolution (1080p vs 1440p). That and the XL2740 does have a higher refresh rate (144 vs 240). Point is, they both use the same identical freesync technology, and will give identical experience.


Also, I suspect they originally tried to get Microsoft to disable the ability to use an AMD card in conjunction with an Nvidia card to get freesync monitors to work, and Microsoft told them to piss off, hence, why they are going this route, as they are trying to paint the new freesync support as a new feature since they can't disable people from doing it anyways.

We’ll continue to test monitors and update our support list. For gamers who have monitors that we have not yet tested, or that have failed validation, we’ll give you an option to manually enable VRR, too.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2019/01/06/g-sync-displays-ces/

ding dong the bitch is dead

…….
lots of stuff coming this year

LG confirms full HDMI 2.1 support in 2019 TVs

https://www.cnet.com/news/ces-2019-...er-box-a-bread-bot-and-more-early-highlights/

 

[Exposed]

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2019/01/06/g-sync-displays-ces/

ding dong the bitch is dead

…….
lots of stuff coming this year



https://www.cnet.com/news/ces-2019-...er-box-a-bread-bot-and-more-early-highlights/

No it isn't, because you keep on buying Nvidia graphics cards

Now you have what you asked for, Freesync support from Nvidia graphics cards with HDMI 2.1.

So now you can continue to purchase Nvidia graphics cards for your new HDMI 2.1 TV, because Navi sure isn't going to give the 4k performance you're hoping for.

 

[bill dennison]

No it isn't, because you keep on buying Nvidia graphics cards

Now you have what you asked for, Freesync support from Nvidia graphics cards with HDMI 2.1.

So now you can continue to purchase Nvidia graphics cards for your new HDMI 2.1 TV, because Navi sure isn't going to give the 4k performance you're hoping for.

don't think the 2080 ti is HDMI 2.1 now
maybe with a software update

but the first built HDMI 2.1 cards will be AMD and if Navi is as cheap as they say (250 bucks each) two will be faster than one 2080 ti and I can always fall back on the 2080 ti when CFX does not work


…..

and can't see why anyone now would buy into g-sync and pay extra for a monitor


…….

but will know soon

https://www.youtube.com/c/AMD/live

 

[NWR_Midnight]

but will know soon

https://www.youtube.com/c/AMD/live

Yep, Wednesday morning at 9am.

 

[Exposed]

don't think the 2080 ti is HDMI 2.1 now
maybe with a software update

but the first built HDMI 2.1 cards will be AMD and if Navi is as cheap as they say (250 bucks each) two will be faster than one 2080 ti and I can always fall back on the 2080 ti when CFX does not work


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and can't see why anyone now would buy into g-sync and pay extra for a monitor


…….

but will know soon

https://www.youtube.com/c/AMD/live

Not really, remember when they showcased the RX480 being faster than a 1080Ti in Doom? And Vega 64 being competitive/faster than a 1080Ti? You really want to repeat that yet again with Navi?

 

[bill dennison]

Not really, remember when they showcased the RX480 being faster than a 1080Ti in Doom? And Vega 64 being competitive/faster than a 1080Ti? You really want to repeat that yet again with Navi?

if it is 15% faster than Vega 64 or better and better power usage
then yea i'll buy two and replace my 1080 ti on my zenith extreme system

right after I get a 3700x and a x570 motherboard for the 2080 ti

 

[NWR_Midnight]

Here is a demonstration of why they "fail" monitors:

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Except they are blaming the monitor rather than their drivers, or their implementation of Gsync-compatible in the drivers. AMD has had the same issues which where all corrected by driver updates/fixes. There may be a handful of monitors that it is actually the hardware's fault, but not 388 out of 400. Heck, even AMD now days tends to mess up FreeSync with driver updates, yet Nvidia is so arrogant that their very first go around using the open standard, that they automatically remove themselves as being the problem. Pathetic!

NVIDIA, Fix you damn drivers as they are most likely the weakest link, not the monitors!

 

[Hapatingjaky]

Its 100% a driver issue, Freesync is Freesync, its natively supported by the hardware ala Display Port. It doesn't differ between DP to DP as its a supported standard.

All Nvidia does is if the Monitor AIB doesn't pay them to have G-Sync Compatible plastered all over it, they write in code in the driver to cause issues.

**** off Nvidia.

 

[bill dennison]

Here is a demonstration of why they "fail" monitors:

[yt]6yCiBbQh2fA[/yt]


Except they are blaming the monitor rather than their drivers, or their implementation of Gsync-compatible in the drivers. AMD has had the same issues which where all corrected by driver updates/fixes. There may be a handful of monitors that it is actually the hardware's fault, but not 388 out of 400. Heck, even AMD now days tends to mess up FreeSync with driver updates, yet Nvidia is so arrogant that their very first go around using the open standard, that they automatically remove themselves as being the problem. Pathetic!

NVIDIA, Fix you damn drivers as they are most likely the weakest link, not the monitors!

but NV can always get their NDA reviewers to say what they want


sorry NV anyone that buys a G-sync screen now nuts

 

[Megaman]

Shots Fired!!

Huang reportedly told PCWorld that he finds the Radeon VII "underwhelming" because "the performance is lousy and there's nothing new." And that wasn't his only jab at AMD--Huang also said that Nvidia's G-Sync essentially has no competition because AMD's FreeSync doesn't work.

But it's at least a little surprising to hear Nvidia's chief executive dismiss the world's first 7nm gaming GPU and claim that most FreeSync monitors "do not even work with AMD’s graphics cards." The former is based on speculation; the latter is outright baffling.

 

[Nunz]

It’s a little surprising to hear him dismiss the worlds first 7nm gaming GPU? No, he’s entirely right .. the card is as disappointing as it can be. It barely keeps up with a 2 year old 12nm arch..

Saying freesync doesn’t work is BS thoufh

 

[bill dennison]

Shots Fired!!

he and NV is ****ing lucky that AMD is not like him or NV cards would mysteriously run like crap on Ryzen and Threadripper motherboards at review times or all the time

as we know Intel will **** with NV if they ever get a card out

 

[SIrPauly]

Imho,

Amd would be in a world of hurt legally if they did that. Even if they did amd would lose so much revenue and gamers would just buy intel with nvidia hardware. Amd needs geforce gamers to buy amd cpu's and motherboards.

 

[bill dennison]

Imho,

Amd would be in a world of hurt legally if they did that. Even if they did amd would lose so much revenue and gamers would just buy intel with nvidia hardware. Amd needs geforce gamers to buy amd cpu's and motherboards.

not if Intel did it to ( who is heading Intel's new GPU ? ) and you have to prove it is intentional and not just a bad chipset driver

I seem to remember SLI not working on Intel MB's
maybe a NV GPU license fee ?

and I remember NV blocking PhysX with a AMD GPU just in the system as they could not trust AMD drivers in the system


….

but I don't think AMD would even if it would be poetic justice after all the crap NV has pulled over the years

 

[SIrPauly]

not if Intel did it to ( who is heading Intel's new GPU ? ) and you have to prove it is intentional and not just a bad chipset driver

I seem to remember SLI not working on Intel MB's
maybe a NV GPU license fee ?

and I remember NV blocking PhysX with a AMD GPU just in the system as they could not trust AMD drivers in the system


….

but I don't think AMD would even if it would be poetic justice after all the crap NV has pulled over the years

A sli license and you're talking about using a nvidia gpu for gpu phyx with an amd card. Neither was anti-competitive. What is-is the control of x86.

 

[bill dennison]

A sli license and you're talking about using a nvidia gpu for gpu phyx with an amd card. Neither was anti-competitive. What is-is the control of x86.

what would Huang do if he had the x86 and not AMD ?

I think he would have killed ATI long ago with it

 

[demo]

LoL you missed this part:

"barely keeps up with a 2080. And if we turn on DLSS we’ll crush it. And if we turn on ray tracing we’ll crush it."

Honestly, AMD must have something up their sleeve. These things probably wreck worlds in 4k, especially in CFX.

 

[bill dennison]

LoL you missed this part:






Honestly, AMD must have something up their sleeve. These things probably wreck worlds in 4k, especially in CFX.

if we turn on DLSS

as a 2080 ti owner what the **** happened to when

5 ****ing months and one shitty game uses RT

other than better 4k performance this whole RTX fiasco is very " underwhelming " so far

 

[acroig]

other than better 4k performance this whole RTX fiasco is very " underwhelming " so far

Agreed but..... software follows hardware, once comes before the other. I don't know WTF happened to TR but next month's Metro should have it.