Nvidia Has a Driver Overhead Problem, GeForce vs Radeon on Low-End CPUs

3600x comes up close to a lot of intel 6 cores but high end 6 cores intel might be able to pull off some upgrades. But I wouldnt be sure on longevity.

Seeing this at what point does the changing and growing driver/games keep on taxing cpus more and more.

Even as a casual gamer myself I wouldnt touch a 6 core if I was to consider nvidia. And I would if they can ever come to a point where they arent such a high price queen in normal times much less these days.

I dunno Pax, my 8086K @ 1440p hangs with the best of them. A 6c/12t CPU is very much the sweet spot today. Problem is that CPU prices for AMD have gone crazy. The same 3600 Ryzen I got for $150 last summer cannot be had today for less than $200. A 5600X is $300 and and Intel 10900KF is as low as $316 at Microcenter?

Crazy....
 
I dunno Pax, my 8086K @ 1440p hangs with the best of them. A 6c/12t CPU is very much the sweet spot today. Problem is that CPU prices for AMD have gone crazy. The same 3600 Ryzen I got for $150 last summer cannot be had today for less than $200. A 5600X is $300 and and Intel 10900KF is as low as $316 at Microcenter?

Crazy....


The Ryzen 5 3600 did fell again in EU.Is 167 euros.Also the 3700x is 279 euros.
 
I dunno Pax, my 8086K @ 1440p hangs with the best of them. A 6c/12t CPU is very much the sweet spot today. Problem is that CPU prices for AMD have gone crazy. The same 3600 Ryzen I got for $150 last summer cannot be had today for less than $200. A 5600X is $300 and and Intel 10900KF is as low as $316 at Microcenter?

Crazy....

I can relate to this too. My "old" 8700 Intel CPU (non K) paired with my 3080 on my main gaming system is almost exactly the same frame output at 1440p/4k with those newer/faster CPU's (with the same reference or slightly OC gpu clocks) as seen in the benchmark thread. I see no need to upgrade the CPU for another generation or two.

This seems to be a problem more for weak AMD CPU's. That and we don't play at 1080p medium. :bleh:
 
I paid in the low 300s for the 8086K when I bought it and $316 for a 10900KF. At that price I could not pass it up. Should be set up for another 3 years.
 
I can relate to this too. My "old" 8700 Intel CPU (non K) paired with my 3080 on my main gaming system is almost exactly the same frame output at 1440p/4k with those newer/faster CPU's (with the same reference or slightly OC gpu clocks) as seen in the benchmark thread. I see no need to upgrade the CPU for another generation or two.

This seems to be a problem more for weak AMD CPU's. That and we don't play at 1080p medium. :bleh:

I paid in the low 300s for the 8086K when I bought it and $316 for a 10900KF. At that price I could not pass it up. Should be set up for another 3 years.

What about my 10600K?
 
On the topic of cpus, this is a gen where people have to upgrade if they want to play modern titles.

The consoles not longer have trash tier jaguar cores, the 2500/2600k era is over, you actually need something modern now.
 
Yes, because when I spend $700 to $800 on a 3080 I plan on playing at 1080p medium details. :lol:

You're going to be spending a more than $800 on a 3080 if you want it anytime within the next year...a LOT more. Two grand is the realistic number currently.
 
I dunno Pax, my 8086K @ 1440p hangs with the best of them. A 6c/12t CPU is very much the sweet spot today. Problem is that CPU prices for AMD have gone crazy. The same 3600 Ryzen I got for $150 last summer cannot be had today for less than $200. A 5600X is $300 and and Intel 10900KF is as low as $316 at Microcenter?

Crazy....

I might have to buy in the US next year if this keeps up. The 5600x up here is 799$ or the same msrp as the 5900x.
 
Some updated numbers on a 3090 on various cpus vs 6900xt:


https://twitter.com/HardwareUnboxed/status/1382508764046057473/photo/1


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6900XT is great but aside from the fact that it's ultra rare in the retail channel the RT performance is not there.

:lol:

what isn't "ultra rare in the retail channel" lets face it the retail channel is broken by bots and greedy assholes and stores selling everything for 4 times MSRP both AMD GPU's and CPU's and NV GPU's

and after 2077 and a few others i can live without RT
last time i tried 2077 looked and ran better without RT

almost seems the more RT the more bugs in a lot of games that takes weeks or months to work out :hmm: :bleh:
 
honestly it is dx12. game devs trying to implement dx12 for the first time have tons of bugs because they don't know how to tune it well. where dx11 is handled more by the driver / cards. See outriders as the latest example of this.
 
The issues with Cyberpunk have zero to do with RT. Control wasn't buggy at all, neither was Metro Exodus..

Bill just says **** sometimes lol
 
The issues with Cyberpunk have zero to do with RT. Control wasn't buggy at all, neither was Metro Exodus..

Bill just says **** sometimes lol

Control was rock solid for me with RTX maxed out but I had lots of issues with Metro Exodus. Game would crash A LOT especially on certain levels. Turning off RTX and some other graphics settings (I think DX12) would always alleviate the crashing.

Wasn't just me either, looking online you will find lots of people had crashing problems with Metro Exodus.
 
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