Nvidia preps NV40 for PCI Express migration

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Nvidia preps NV40 for PCI Express migration

Nvidia will move from today's AGP 8x interface to the next-generation PCI Express buys during the last three months of 2003 and the first three months of 2004, according to roadmaps revealed by German web site HardTecs4U.

The product that will lead that transition will be the NV40, the site says. Speaking at an AMD road show in the US recently, an Nvidia staffer claimed NV40 would be twice as fast as the recently launched NV35, aka the GeForce FX 5900. The representative also said that the company was back on track for a six-monthly product refresh cycle, so on that basis, you'd expect to see the NV35's successor make an appearance in the timeframe suggested by HardTecs4U's roadmap.

Come the end of Q2 2004, and Nvidia will announce a revised NV40, the NV45. Unlike the NV40, this will only be offered with a PCI Express interface, rather than both AGP 8x and the new bus, HardTecs4U suggests.

In the same timeframe, the company will offer NV41 and NV43, aimed at the performance graphics and mainstream sectors, rather than the high-end enthusiast arena, much as the GeForce FX 5600 and 5200 sit below the 5900. HardTecs4U's roadmap also includes an NV42 part, due to appear mid-2004 and also targeting mainstream buyers.

In the meantime, Nvidia will release updates to the NV3x line, the NV36 in the middle of this year and the NV36X during Q4 2003/Q1 2004. The NV36 will be a AGP 8x product, while the NV36X will carry the line over to PCI Express. Both will ultimately be replaced by the NV41. ®
 
Pagh.

Pagh.

Knowing nVidia lately they'll probably just make it a normal PCI board and swear up & down that it's faster than the AGP.... :bleh:
 
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digitalwanderer said:
Knowing nVidia lately they'll probably just make it a normal PCI board and swear up & down that it's faster than the AGP.... :bleh:
They aren't that bad. :lol:

I think it is great they (ATI and nVidia) are moving to PCI express, just hope it won't be a flop and will give a real advantage over agp.
 
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XSBagage said:
I think it is great they (ATI and nVidia) are moving to PCI express, just hope it won't be a flop and will give a real advantage over agp.

That's the point that was made above, you can barely see any improvement from AGP2X to AGP8X, how is giving more bandwidth going to make much difference?
 
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camrymans said:
That's the point that was made above, you can barely see any improvement from AGP2X to AGP8X, how is giving more bandwidth going to make much difference?

It doesn't just give more bandwith, it gives more voltages too, so you probably won't have to mess around with plugs.
 
The one thing I've noticed about PCI-Express (3GIO) was the speed.
The technology will greatly alleviate one of the oldest bottlenecks inside today's PCs. Currently, links based on PCI-X, the latest take on PCI technology, run at 133MHz in most computers. PCI Express will run at 2.5GHz and transfer far more data per second than the existing standards, according to the PCI-SIG, a neutral consortium sponsored by computing companies. Eventually, PCI Express could hit 40GHz.
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if thats true, hopefully the original version of pci-express will stay for a while, its irritating having slot and socket changes :hmm:
 
Flecceh said:
if thats true, hopefully the original version of pci-express will stay for a while, its irritating having slot and socket changes :hmm:
Go for AMD, it has been socket A for a long time.
 
Flecceh said:
if thats true, hopefully the original version of pci-express will stay for a while, its irritating having slot and socket changes :hmm:
I still don't know why people make such a big deal about socket changes...typically other changes(ie bus speeds blah blah blah)negate the fact that the cpu still uses the same socket and unless you bought something at the end of its life, the socket issue still doesn't matter as you can typically still get a new processor or two before a socket changes.
 
anyone got some specs on PCI-X?

oh nevermind I found something of intrest

PCI-X 2.0, PCI Express specs released to developers

By Tom Krazit
July 24, 2002 10:04 am PT


SPECIFICATIONS FOR TWO new interconnect technologies were released Tuesday by the PCI-SIG (peripheral component interconnect - special interest group), PCI-X 2.0 for servers, and PCI Express for PCs, the group said in a release.

PCI-SIG has released the protocol portion of the PCI-X (PCI-Extended) specification, as well as the "release candidate" for the electrical portion of the specification. The electrical portion is still being tested, and will be released upon the completion of the testing process in the coming weeks, the organization said. The Base specification and the Card specification for PCI Express were also released.

Product developers can now begin designing products, such as interface cards and expansion slots that incorporate both technologies, PCI-SIG said.

PCI Express is the next evolution of PCI technology, which allows internal components of a PC, such as the microprocessor, to communicate with devices attached through expansion slots, like graphics cards. PCI-X is a bus technology used within computers to allow chips to exchange data at faster speeds than PCI technology allows.

Two versions of the PCI-X 2.0 technology will be released. PCI-X 266 can move data within a computer at speeds of up to 266MHz, allowing data rates of up to 2.1G bytes per second. The other version, PCI-X 533, will allow transfer speeds of up to 533MHz, or data rates of up to 4.2G bytes per second. Users of older PCI-X technology will be able to upgrade their 133MHz, 1.06G bytes per second, interconnect technology once product developers design add-in cards based on the specifications released to PCI-SIG members on the organization's Web site. (http://www.pcisig.com)

PCI Express will allow high-end graphics cards and other interconnects such as USB (universal serial bus) 2.0 and Infiniband to communicate with PCs at 2.5Gbps per lane per direction.

PCI-X is fully backwards-compatible with PCI, meaning that PCI-X cards can be plugged into PCI slots, and software written for PCI-X will work on PCI-equipped PCs. However, the PCI-X cards will exchange data at PCI speeds when plugged into PCI slots.

PCI Express is software-compatible with PCI, but represents a new direction for the hardware side of the technology, and PCI Express cards will not work in PCI slots. It is designed to be scalable, and is a serial I/O (input/output) technology.
 
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