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Nope, not low enough. 4080 is worth the wait and gonna stomp those ancient relics.
4080 will be the same or maybe 5% to 10% faster than the 3080 ti and be 899+
and 4080 ti will be 6 to 9 months after and the one to buy and be 1199+
.. you think the 4080 is going to be only 15-20% faster than the 3080?
way off
Considering how close the 3080 and 3080TI are this gen, I can't see that being the case. The 2080TI stomped the 2080, but the 3080TI is only ~10% faster than the 3080.
Also, with AMD being competitive again, I don't think they'll be able to release a 4080 that is barely faster than a 3080.
NV has a formula they almost alway have about the same performance over last gen
and i think they hold something back just incase
1x00 series would prove this false. 1080 and 1080Ti were much faster than 980/980Ti if memory serves.
2x00 series yes as 2080Ti was deemed not sufficiently faster than 1080Ti.
the 1080 non ti was same 24% over a 980 ti at 1080p and 27% at 4k
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080/26.html
and the 1080 ti was 26% over it 10 months later at 4k
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/30.html
it is better if they don't come out together
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kind of odd the 3080 ti is only 10% faster at 4k
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition/28.html
jacket didn't want to kill the 3090
So you agree that's not 'same performance'?
I bought the 980TI and 1080TI. The difference between now and then is that the TI is no longer a refresh that replaces the original price point to extend the original pricing for an additional year on the same node. It's actually a much higher priced card and it has to be slower than the Titan class despite coming out a year later. Back then you paid the same price and waited longer but you got a much faster card that would only be beaten a little by the next generation. It came down to the silicon maturing and them being able to bring the whole fat design out with the TI version.
They don't launch cards every year now and the last two generations were not large enough of a leap to allow two large increases on the same node via TI. They are bringing the entire full fat node to the table right away and cutting one or two SM's to ease production. This allows for a minor bump on the TI version of the Titan card and makes the TI version of the normal series pretty much pointless outside of competitive price advantages. This makes the TI much less exciting and in the case of the 2000 series there really was no TI outside of marketing purposes and as you can see with the 3000 series there wasn't really any room for one either. The 3090 was 10% faster than the 3080 and the fat full die was only 5% faster than the 3090 which came out 1.5 years late offering pretty much nothing.
From what I've read this next series will have the 4090 on a completely different chip than the 4080/4080TI. It will probably be much faster than the 4080 and that will allow Nvidia to sell the cut down 4080 at a budget level and then speed up the chip a little more a year later for the TI version.
It would be nice to see the TI version actually worth the extra cost but they have to have enough performance to do it. I think they should go back to the old ways and just offer the TI at the same price point with a 10% free boost for people who are buying halfway through a card cycle which is generally unfortunate.
They need to make the 4080 worth while and the 4090 worth while first and foremost. If they want to charge extra for minor performance boosts halfway through the lifespan of the cards that is cool but it shouldn't be a series consideration when it comes to waiting for it. It's more of a product for people who happened to be upgrading mid cycle and it's available to they buy the extra 10% TI version.
and what does it matter you bought them all
the 3000 were ****ed because of Samsung .
The 2080 eventually ended up curbstomping the 1080 ti though.
The 2080 eventually ended up curbstomping the 1080 ti though.
the 3000 were ****ed because of Samsung .