Official Vega Thread
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Treeckcold57
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Shadow, it has to do with prefetching instruction, not DX12. Dirt 4 uses the same tech as well.
I'll take any advantage it may be as long as higher performance is achieved, so while nothing changes in terms of Vega using a lot of power and much more than Pascal, it isn't quite the turd many may have initially thought either.
{0}Salamander{0}
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Why is the cheapest Vega now £500?
Unobtanium is expensive and probably the next mining craze.
I must have missed something.Not saying Vega did bad but it's still around 1080 level of performance at best. Ti is up to 50% faster at some points.
Well put it this way, if ( and it is a big if ), Vega's current drivers aren't much more than Fury X drivers meant to recognize Vega (17.9.3 I think ) and that a lot of the performance related features are yet to be enabled in the Vega architecture, including the biggest of all which is tiling then performance can only go up and not just by a little bit either.
The GTX1080 has been on the market for a year and a half, so the drivers for this are as tweaked as they'll ever be, and the 1080 TI has been out since February and we're already in October, so that's already 8 months too and it's drivers are getting to the point that they're pretty mature as well and most of the speed has been achieved.
My main criticism is if AMD really was dumb and / or incompetent enough to allow reviews to happen with drivers in such a raw state, if they really are not much more than Fury X drivers......They should have gotten on the ball much earlier than they did driver wise if it really is true.
Vega has been out for over a month and driver development should have been underway far before August. If the drivers are still just “Fury X drivers that can recognize Vega” then AMD is a complete failure when it comes to developing video cards and should probably fire everyone involved in driver development.
Should have done this after 2012.
We'll soon find out if there's any credibility to this if in a few months from now, say early next year and once Vega has a few more driver releases under it's belt, the game results went up 15~20% or more over what they are now on the same game and settings.....Some gains are to be expected, but nothing that dramatic.
The biggest thing with Vega is whether developers use the features it has.
Will Devs use the dual issue FP16 ability? (RPM)
Will people make use of the HBCC?
Its those questions that I have.
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space cadet
I must have missed something.
Oh right, I missed that part in the CoD video.
Treeckcold57
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I heard HBCC works better with productivity rather than gaming (small differences unless GPU only has a vRAM 4GB physical)
Forza 7 and Dirt 4 use the same tech called prefetching instruction that isn't related to DX11 or DX12, just GPU instruction. I guess.
Speaking of FP16. I don't know because we don't have any current game that used FP16 feature.
FP16 would be useful for physics and A.I. since GPU's are math monsters compared to a CPU......i mean to put in into context, Intel's 18 core CPU that has been just launched, almost hits 1 Teraflop floating point, but Vega using that rapid packed math FP16 feature hits 25 Teraflop.......25 times faster so A.I and physics can be crazy realistic . . . . Hell, NPC's smarter than the player actually playing the game isn't too far fetched.....
Nvidia's Volta will also have that capability too, so there's no reason for developers not to use it in game releases a few years from now.
AMD Q317 Results CEO Prepared Remarks
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/10/24/amd_q317_results_ceo_prepared_remarks
https://www.hardocp.com/article/2017/10/24/amd_q317_results_ceo_prepared_remarks
For all the RX VEGA owners out there, can you please tell me whether VEGA can be unofficially used with Windows 8.1 x64 with Windows 7 x64 drivers?
I've searched for a clear and concise answer on this, but no luck. If yes, can you additionally speak to following:
1. Can the drivers be installed using the installer or manually?
2. How's the Radeon Settings control panel support?
3. Any features that are missing/not supported in the drivers on Win8.1?
I'm aware AMD ended official support for W8.1. However, they state that Windows 7 drivers can be used but are not 'officially supported'.
My 7950 is long in the tooth. Having skipped Fury, I'm eager to upgrade to an AIB VEGA 56, once they become available. Having a clear answer on this subject will confirm or deny my fears.
Thanks in advance.
I've searched for a clear and concise answer on this, but no luck. If yes, can you additionally speak to following:
1. Can the drivers be installed using the installer or manually?
2. How's the Radeon Settings control panel support?
3. Any features that are missing/not supported in the drivers on Win8.1?
I'm aware AMD ended official support for W8.1. However, they state that Windows 7 drivers can be used but are not 'officially supported'.
My 7950 is long in the tooth. Having skipped Fury, I'm eager to upgrade to an AIB VEGA 56, once they become available. Having a clear answer on this subject will confirm or deny my fears.
Thanks in advance.
LordHawkwind
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Why don’t you use the free accessibility upgrade to Win 10. Can’t see the point in staying on Win 8.1 unless your cpu is so old. It’s a free upgrade and gets you DX12 which is a must for Vega.
I appreciate the quick response LordHawkind, but your response comes across as the personal preference type. You see, I do see a point with sticking to Win8.1 and don't consider Win10 to be an upgrade (DX12 not inclusive).
It is because of this preference that I'm interested in finding the answer to my original question. You may not agree, but hope you can understand my madness.
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