PS3 vs. Xbox 360

I think you need to flip the connectivity to the x 360 as it plays media from any MP3/media player, and I'm guessing probably could have a memory card reader plugged into the usb port and be able to access flash memory in the same way.
 
Can we use your thread to flame each other to death.. :bleh: j/k.

But yes I guess, until PS3 has something equal to an Xbox Live I think, Sony may have a bit of a trouble. Theoretically Xbox360 seems to have more processing power whereas PS3 seems to be graphically more impressive. Only time will tell.
 
well, I did notice that sony's people had all kinds of comparisons between the cell and xbox360 cpu's, but said absolutely nothing to compare the gpu's. This either means that they don't know a darn thing about xbox360's gpu, or that they know they don't have a significant graphics advantage.

In terms of cpu power, its clear that the ps3 is a beast. It'll be interesting to see what the actual difference in games on a system with 9ghz total vs 21ghz total. Either one should have no problem playing any pc games that are out now, but we'll see what happens in another 3 years.
 
Lets not forget it's not all about power. The ATI chip in the XBOX 360 may be very capible even though the CPU may not be as fast as the Cell CPU. Also lets not forget that since the Xbox 360 processor isn't completely NEW technology it may be cheaper to make. Also the background process's and the OS that initially run the consoles are going to be diffrent. Don't forget the ATI graphics processor has unified pixel andshader architecture andthe nvidia one in the PS3 is not. Essentially the unified architecture suppised to remove all latencies and do more per cycle. Also the ATI chip supposed to have 49(If I remember) pipes and is compared to something 3 to 4 times more powerfull then a R520 with 16 pipes. I don't think the gap for graphics and capibilities are going to be that far off from each other. Your going to see a ton of ports I think this time around. Whats goint to come into play is any Extras. Like Xbox has Live and connectivity to many diffrent devices (MP3 players, Camras, etc) VIA USB2 also capible of streaming from a mocrosoft xp media center PC and PC and Xbox 360 devices will work with one another via USB2. PS3 ont he other hand has media readers and Spports BD disks. which in itself is also very impressive. Both systems will be downwardly compatible so they Both have a wide selection of games. At this point it's anyones game. If sony can pull off something like Xbox live then they have it made. if they can't Most gamers I think are going to go Live. Ether way we the consumer will win.
 
Sadly there isn't enough info about Graphics Chip of the both consoles, so all i said was from available info and some speculation.
I'm a bit skeptical about Unified Shader Architeture, because it's a WGF(windows graphics foundation or DirectX 10) feature and it's not supposed to be supported in the next generation of Graphic Cards, so maybe they don't mean by the term the real Unified Shader Architeture.
if that's turned out to be true, then this mean that Xbox 360 will contain very advanced chip that is at least a year away from being released for PCs.

Imagine what the devs can do with this Architeture, advanced features like Parallax Mapping or real Displacement Mapping will be more common than anything.
 
dsherman said:
...Also the ATI chip supposed to have 49(If I remember) pipes and is compared to something 3 to 4 times more powerfull then a R520 with 16 pipes.
:lol: You're dreaming. A prime example of typical Joe-Six-Pack's comment.

You can't directly compare pipeline structures between R520, and Xenon like that. They are not pipes in the sense that we know now. (unified pixel and vertex pipelines).
Do you have any idea what kind of memory bus would be required to keep all those 48 pipes filled? :nuts:
Also, did you know that PS2's Graphic Synthesizer has 16 pipes as well?
 
dsherman said:
I don't think the gap for graphics and capibilities are going to be that far off from each other. Your going to see a ton of ports I think this time around. Whats goint to come into play is any Extras.

I think your wrong. The Xbox was more powerful than the PS2 thus it was able to gain a foothold in the market. The exclusive titles showed off what the system could do. Lets reverse the situation, if the PS2 was more powerful do you think the Xbox had any chance in the market? Its all about first impression and Xbox delivered.

PS3 will have a lot of exclusive titles and thats where the graphical differences can be seen. If it is indeed more powerful it could sway gamers. As for online play its a none issue, they both will have a strategy.
 
Both releases are scaring me. That the pc route, which I'm on, is falling behind. If reviews greatly praise either one of the 2 console systems I'm on the way to the store to it. Online or offline store.
 
Looking at the demo's for both new consoles, I'm impressed by both. Of course, real world play will be the biggest factor. I currently own the XBOX and never owned the Playstation 2.
One thing that does impress me is that the Playstation 3 will be backwards compatable out of the box as offically announced at E3.That's a hell of a lot of games! :drool: No official statement from Microsoft as to backwards compatibility with XBOX. I think there will be evenually but not out of the box. :( As an all in one gaming solution, PS3 has a slight lead on the XBOX 360.
Another thing, the Playstation 3 debut at E3 was put together really well, good facts and specs for the geeks in all of us. The "debut" of the XBOX 360 last week on MTV was....crap, IMHO.
I'm no fan boy for either console. In the end, it's about the 1)game play, 2)Good story. 3)graphics. If my budget allows, I'd like to own both game consoles and have started putting money away for a purchase. Most likely will pick up the XBOX 360 after it been out for a few weeks. I want to see what games will be released at launch and to make sure the first batches are not lemons. It does look like Dead or Alive 4 will be a launch release title. Based on the demo, the graphics look great!(Love that game series!)
I really need a big screen HDTV for all the upcoming game console goodness! :evil:
 
you know what I'm really hoping for? What would be best for gamers and the industry? I think it'd be awsome if there was no clear winner, but xbox and playstation each took 50% of the market share (minus whatever nintendo can take).
 
Gamesindustry.biz Rob Fahey Opinion.

E3 Opinion: Xbox 360 is outgunned and outclassed by Sony's PS3

With both Microsoft and Sony laying their cards on the table over the past week, the opening skirmish of the next-gen console war has tipped heavily in favour of the PlayStation 3 - but the war is only starting, says Rob Fahey.

There was a point, at Microsoft's pre-E3 conference four years ago, when a lot of people began to believe in Xbox. I can pinpoint the moment almost exactly - it was the point when the video of Dead or Alive 3 rolled, and the jaws of the audience slackened as the best in-game graphics they'd ever seen suddenly graced the screens ahead of them. Back when Halo was just another unproven first person shooter, a single swoop over Team Ninja's beautiful, sun-kissed beach was enough to convince many people that Xbox was worthy of attention. I know; I was one of those people.

Walking out of that conference, just a few miles from where I'm sitting now and just a few years back in time, I heard someone - an American journalist - say that Sony had been "totally, like, outclassed". He was right; the PlayStation 2 had just been given a technological kicking by its upstart rival. Not that this would stop Sony from coasting to a comfortable victory by the end of the hardware generation, of course, but the sheer graphical prowess of the Xbox really did give PS2 a bloody nose. Outclassed was the only word for it.

Today, Sony returned the favour. With interest.

Looking at the content of the two conferences today in Los Angeles - and the MTV special last week, in the case of Xbox 360 - "outclassed" is a word that comes to mind a lot. The bar which was set by Microsoft last week has not only been met, it has been vaulted over. PlayStation 3 is more powerful, more fully featured, more innovative and better supported than Xbox 360. When the Sony conference kicked off, we expected to see something "a bit better" than Xbox, technologically. We didn't expect to have our most fundamental beliefs about what next-generation games will be capable of changed. That, however, is exactly what happened.

I don't want to beat on Microsoft too hard, because ultimately there are still quite a few Xbox 360 games I'm looking forward to; but it's hard not to feel that suddenly, Microsoft's hip lingo and celebrity endorsements seem to ring very hollow. Where Microsoft gave us Elijah Wood babbling through a half hour marketing-led special on MTV, Sony had us watching Phil Harrison show off jaw-dropping interactive tech demos on stage. Harrison is about as far from being a hobbit as you can get - I'm not kidding, the man's a giant - and Ken Kutaragi is unlikely to ever have as many screaming fans as The Killers, but Sony seemed to feel that its new console spoke for itself. It didn't need celebrity endorsements, or senior executives trying to be "down with the kids" - thank god.

It's not that Sony would have problems rounding up some impressive celebs if they so desired. Sony Pictures, Sony Music and the PlayStation brand itself could have called out half of Hollywood today. Instead, we got to see a game console that feels genuinely next generation. We weren't told how "cool" a random American sports star thinks PlayStation 3 is, we were told how astonishingly powerful it is and how incredibly feature-packed it is. We're not just talking about a console that's twice as powerful as Xbox 360 in simple, logical terms (and bear in mind that that's a far, far greater gap in power than existed between PS2 and Xbox); we're talking about a console with more functionality, with fewer corners cut and with a genuinely more impressive line-up of software.

If the day could be summed up in a microcosm, it would be Square Enix' story that explained events best. Yoichi Wada, the firm's president, made two stops today. At the Sony conference, he was one of many developers presenting stunning tech demos - in his case, a truly stunning real-time recreation of the opening to Final Fantasy VII, using characters almost as high quality as those seen in the forthcoming Advent Children movie. Within a matter of hours, he had another stop to make - this time with a headline billing at the Microsoft conference, where he revealed that Square Enix will be supporting Xbox 360... With the release of a four year old massively multiplayer game that's already available on PS2 and PC.

Outclassed? Undoubtedly. Sony's hardware, its software, and even its simple display of confidence in its own product have completely outclassed Microsoft today - but while there can be little doubt about the outcome of this particular battle, it'd be a foolish man who assumed that the war was over yet. What Sony has done unto Microsoft today, Microsoft did unto Sony not so many years ago - and software giant is unlikely to take a defeat at E3 lying down. This tug of war has a long way to go yet.
 
To me I take everything sony shows with a HUGE grain of salt. They lie they decieive. Just like they did with the PS2. I will believe its more powerfull when its on the shelfs and I SEE the games.

I see it as. Xbox is showing what it is capable of.

Sony is showing more than what the PS3 is capable of ( to build hype and steal your money ) just like they did in 2000.
 
Unless Halo 3 somehow ends up on the PS3, I will undoubtedly buy a Xbox 360 first. But that doesn't mean I won't pick up a PS3 later on down the road.
 
CurrentlyPissed said:
To me I take everything sony shows with a HUGE grain of salt. They lie they decieive. Just like they did with the PS2. I will believe its more powerfull when its on the shelfs and I SEE the games.

I see it as. Xbox is showing what it is capable of.

Sony is showing more than what the PS3 is capable of ( to build hype and steal your money ) just like they did in 2000.

Damn fanboys are sad.
/fanboy mode:
"Sony steal j00 money! They rob j00 at gunpoint and force j00 to buy PS3!!!1111one"
/end fanboy mode

Sure that's an exaggeration, but you may as well have said the above. Sony isn't stealing anyone's money. Only blind fanboyism would cause you to believe one company is showing the true potential of their next-gen console and not another. There's absolutely no reason to believe the PS3 game and tech demos are not feasible on PS3 while those demonstrated for Xbox360 are completely feasible. No valid reason anyway. Unless you're a fanboy, then you can justify any belief :rolleyes:
 
ShaidarHaran said:
Damn fanboys are sad.
/fanboy mode:
"Sony steal j00 money! They rob j00 at gunpoint and force j00 to buy PS3!!!1111one"
/end fanboy mode

Sure that's an exaggeration, but you may as well have said the above. Sony isn't stealing anyone's money. Only blind fanboyism would cause you to believe one company is showing the true potential of their next-gen console and not another. There's absolutely no reason to believe the PS3 game and tech demos are not feasible on PS3 while those demonstrated for Xbox360 are completely feasible. No valid reason anyway. Unless you're a fanboy, then you can justify any belief :rolleyes:
Umm actually I am just stating the truth. They did it before why wont they do it again?

Maybe I should mention I plan on getting both for difrrent reasons. But because of the **** hype wagon sony pulled last time for the PS2 ( this thing will can run your whole house :nag: ). I will believe they are equal.

You know shaidar. I thought you wouldve known me better. I never take sides I am just stating how I feel.
 
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