Report: AMD And NVIDIA Launching Next Generation Flagships In September

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"Word on the vine is that both AMD and NVIDIA are planning to launch their next-generation graphics cards by September this year. NVIDIA has been chipping away on its 7nm Ampere architecture and AMD is allegedly planning on (finally) launching the anxiously anticipated Big Navi GPU (or whatever AMD ends up calling it). The source in question is Taiwan's biggest technology newspaper, Digitimes (via Videocardz), and has been very reliable in the past."

https://wccftech.com/report-amd-and-nvidia-launching-next-generation-flagships-in-september/

Get ready to pay, gays! :lol:
 
Ah, this reminds me of the good old days when both AMD/ATI and Nvidia released their next gen cards at practically the same time. That and when high quality internet porn was 320x200 :bleh:

Should be interesting indeed.
 
here is hoping Big Navi torpedoes all NVIDIA's plans and prices :p

we need another 4870 and gtx 280 price drop

but NV has not released right before AMD since the gtx 280 and i think they will let AMD go first this time
 
bill dennison said:
here is hoping Big Navi torpedoes all NVIDIA's plans and prices :p

we need another 4870 and gtx 280 price drop

but NV has not released right before AMD since the gtx 280 and i think they will let AMD go first this time
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I think high prices are expected based on size, complexity and R & D resources spent. It Amd desires to get into the lucrative data center market, small die, sweet spot strategies like the 3870, 4870 and 5870 are distant memories.

You can see Data Center revenue from Nvidia inching close to Geforce gaming revenue and may surpass it next quarter.
 
SIrPauly said:
I think high prices are expected based on size, complexity and R & D resources spent. It Amd desires to get into the lucrative data center market, small die, sweet spot strategies like the 3870, 4870 and 5870 are distant memories.

You can see Data Center revenue from Nvidia inching close to Geforce gaming revenue and may surpass it next quarter.
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smaller die MCM is Hopper next year and AMD also most likely

this maybe the last gasp of the monolithic die hopefully

.....

then the 3080 ti is said to be a 800+ mm2 die with low 7nm wafer supply per NV playing price games with TSMC

and Navi2x is said to be a 505 mm2 die and AMD scored extra 7nm wafers from NV's games
unknow if Navi2x is gaming only
 
I think the core for the Ti will be smaller than that. The multi-chip packages in the future may be monolithic and very complex for the flagship. Monolithic designs are not going away, imho.

Navi2's architecture is probably geared for gaming and data centers. Data center revenue is lucrative, growing and the main revenue driver for the future. You don't wanna miss out and fall too far behind.

The companies may of had different strategies for the gpu: Intel and Amd spent resources on integration, while leveraging the cpu while Nvidia was innovating the Gpu and software to me. Nvidia's market cap is inching closer to the mighty Intel.
 
Did AMD abandon the plan to keep Vega for compute purposes? That thing's apparently a compute beast (maybe not now since its been out for so long already)

Also didnt AMD also use big dies in the Evergreen series way back? (5870, first with DX11 and they annihilated nvidia for about 6 months)
 
Sasquach said:
Did AMD abandon the plan to keep Vega for compute purposes? That thing's apparently a compute beast (maybe not now since its been out for so long already)

Also didnt AMD also use big dies in the Evergreen series way back? (5870, first with DX11 and they annihilated nvidia for about 6 months)
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no since they just released one last week

AMD unveils 7nm Radeon Pro VII graphics card for workstations
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https://appleinsider.com/articles/2...radeon-pro-vii-graphics-card-for-workstations

AMD’s Radeon Pro VII Professional Graphics Card Leaks Out – 16 GB HBM2, 7nm Vega GPU, Reportedly Faster Than The Quadro RTX 5000
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https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-pro-vii-graphics-card-7nm-vega-gpu-16-gb-hbm2-leak/
 
No one is offering Amd has forsaken this market but has some trouble competing with Nvidia here. Navi2 may change things, Intel may change things. I find it amazing that Nvidia database revenue may outpace GeForce gaming revenue next quarter.
 
SIrPauly said:
No one is offering Amd has forsaken this market but has some trouble competing with Nvidia here. Navi2 may change things, Intel may change things. I find it amazing that Nvidia database revenue may outpace GeForce gaming revenue next quarter.
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In its presentations, the company placed particular emphasis on the data center market, both on-premises enterprise and hyperscaler/cloud services, which CEO Lisa Su said will be a $35 billion TAM by 2023. The company is making an aggressive move in GPUs for data center-based AI/machine learning workloads, announcing a GPU architecture, called CDNA, that is a compute-focused counterpart to the company’s RDMA GPU architecture for gaming.

In this way, AMD is mounting an effort to compete with Nvidia’s leadership in data center GPUs. CDNA is compute-oriented by virtue of incorporating fewer graphics bits, explained industry watcher Patrick Moorhead, president of Moor Insights & Strategy.

“This is a good move as data center GPUs don't need many of the features a consumer graphics card needs,” Moorhead said. “This includes elements like display and pixel rendering engines, and ray tracing. This means AMD can save cost by removing those elements and add more gates that help data center performance, like tensor OPS.”
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https://www.enterpriseai.news/2020/03/06/amds-road-ahead-5nm-epyc-cpu-gpu-coupling-20-cagr/

i get from this is AMD is going to two separate and completely different GPU's

for CDNA ( compute ) and RDNA ( gaming only )
 
I don't know about that. It would make more sense to design an architecture that can do both and engineer a die or core that exposes the targeted market strengths.

So based on what you're offering Navi2 is strictly for gaming?
 
SIrPauly said:
I don't know about that. It would make more sense to design an architecture that can do both and engineer a die or core that exposes the targeted market strengths.

So based on what you're offering Navi2 is strictly for gaming?
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so far

big navi or Navi 2x has been marketed as a high end 4k gaming card

i remember reading somewhere they were splitting them as one gpu for both was not working with GCN
it was good for a pro card but crap for gaming
and why the CDNA and RDNA

but till release like always it is all fud

but maybe they can get a fire pro card out of Navi 2x but i don't know and have seen nothing on it yet
and fire pro cards came out first with GCN

and with the GCN 7nm Radeon Pro VII is just coming out now i don't see them replacing it soon
 
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bill dennison said:
so far

big navi or Navi 2x has been marketed as a high end 4k gaming card

i remember reading somewhere they were splitting them as one gpu for both was not working with GCN
it was good for a pro card but crap for gaming
and why the CDNA and RDNA

but till release like always it is all fud

but maybe they can get a fire pro card out of Navi 2x but i don't know and have seen nothing on it yet
and fire pro cards came out first with GCN

and with the GCN 7nm Radeon Pro VII is just coming out now i don't see them replacing it 3
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Yeah, Cdna's architecture takes advantage of their infinity technology for efficiency between mutiple cpu and Gpu communication. I just read their Analyst day material.
 
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