RV870 rumor thread !

[Burn]

ATI RV870 and Nvidia GT216 Expected to Arrive by Late June 2009. ATI and Nvidia to Start Using TSMC’s 40nm Process Technology by Mid-2009
ATI, graphics product group of Advanced Micro Devices, and Nvidia Corp. are rumoured to release their next-generation graphics processing units (GPUs) sometime in the middle of next year, if the information released by sources familiar with market situations and plans of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. is correct.
The leading designers of graphics processors will not utilize TSMC’s 45nm process technology, but will start using 40nm fabrication process instead in a bid to reduce manufacturing costs amid cut-throat price war between the two as well as the battle for the highest-performance discrete graphics processor on the market. Thinner process technologies allow to pack more transistors inside the chip, potentially providing better functionality and/or performance, while keeping the costs and power consumption under control.
A news-story by China Economic News Service claims that both ATI and Nvidia will complete tape-out of their 40nm designs, which are code-named ATI RV870 and Nvidia GT216, by the end of this year. Both companies are projected to release actual products based on the new chips starting from the second half of June, 2009, assuming that everything goes as planned.
There is no reliable information about the GT216 and RV870 chips. One thing that is known for almost sure is that both processor will be flagship graphics processors in Nvidia’s and ATI’s lineups.
Earlier this month AMD’s ATI unit outlined several expectations for the consumer 3D graphics industry in 2009. Among the highlights are GPU manufacturing transition to 40nm process technology, widespread usage of GDDR5 memory standard and also introduction of DirectX 11-compatible GPUs. In addition, ATI also predicted the rise of GPGPU with help of computing shaders of DirectX 11 and OpenCL. The company expects arrival of consumer applications that take advantage of GPGPU, which will emphasize importance of graphics processors among end-users.
It remains to be seen whether ATI RV870 and Nvidia GT216 are compatible with Microsoft DirectX 11 next-generation application programming interface, but considering the fact that there will be almost a year gap between current-generation and next-generation chips, a huge performance improvement should be expected.

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[{0}Salamander{0}]

June?! What happened to Q1 2009?

 

[SSXeon]

June?! What happened to Q1 2009?

40nm wont be ready then.

 

[TheNGTV]

One of the ATI 40nm chips have already taped out.

RV740 probably gets in by late Q1, and GT300/RV870 for Q2 instead.

 

[nsgua]

1. RV870 codename is not Little Dragon. That codename is right in some points, but its not RV870.

2. AMD said they will have a DX11 compatible GPU in H1 2009. Now its ur turn to guess which GPU it will be.

1. Little Dragon = 40nm version of DX10.1 RV770 1Q 2009
2. RV870 is 40nm(?) DX11 chip 2Q 2009

am I right?

 

[SSXeon]

1. Little Dragon = 40nm version of DX10.1 RV770 1Q 2009
2. RV870 is 40nm(?) DX11 chip 2Q 2009

am I right?

Looks like it. Little Dragon would have 1000sp, and RV870 would have double that? Tho on 40nm i would think you could get more then 750Mhz(1.5TF). SO maybe little dragon is HD4950, and we will see a HD4970 @ 900Mhz(1.8TF)? Then each would be 50% faster then current offerings.

 

[acroig]

Looks like it. Little Dragon would have 1000sp, and RV870 would have double that? Tho on 40nm i would think you could get more then 750Mhz(1.5TF). SO maybe little dragon is HD4950, and we will see a HD4970 @ 900Mhz(1.8TF)? Then each would be 50% faster then current offerings.

If ATI can keep the same price point as the 4800 series that will give nV some very tough competition. nV now has to compete in performance AND price, something they have forgotten how to do.

 

[nsgua]

so AMD/ATI is testing the 40nm process with a smaller and higher clocked rv770 (Little Dragon) and release it in 1Q 2009 (against a 55nm Geforce 280?) and a half year later, with Windows 7, AMD/ATI starts with RV870 in 40nm and DX11.

very cool

 

[Treeckcold57]

so AMD/ATI is testing the 40nm process with a smaller and higher clocked rv770 (Little Dragon) and release it in 1Q 2009 (against a 55nm Geforce 280?) and a half year later, with Windows 7, AMD/ATI starts with RV870 in 40nm and DX11.

very cool

I think it would be great for them doing with Lil Dragon! Competitions will go more tough.

 

[jam2k]

RV770 @40nm as a preamble of RV870 would be really sweet

 

[SSXeon]

If ATI can keep the same price point as the 4800 series that will give nV some very tough competition. nV now has to compete in performance AND price, something they have forgotten how to do.

Concidering ati MADE the fuking pricepoint i cant see them NOT doing it again. $650 GTX280 anyone?

so AMD/ATI is testing the 40nm process with a smaller and higher clocked rv770 (Little Dragon) and release it in 1Q 2009 (against a 55nm Geforce 280?) and a half year later, with Windows 7, AMD/ATI starts with RV870 in 40nm and DX11.

very cool

I really wish i knew.

 

[acroig]

Concidering ati MADE the fuking pricepoint i cant see them NOT doing it again. $650 GTX280 anyone?

, right on!

 

[AlexV]

A wide bus is what nvidia is currently doing to achieve performance

However was that conclusion reached?