Some 4850 benches

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Medion

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One of the HardOCP forum goers got his card, and compared it directly to his 8800GT in Crysis. He paid $189 for the card.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1316858

1. 0xAA 0xAF

8800GT Min: 20 Max: 38 Avg: 32
4850 Min: 26 Max: 41 Avg: 35

2. 0xAA 16xAF

8800GT Min: 19 Max: 35 Avg: 28
4850 Min: 25 Max: 40 Avg: 31

3. 2xAA 16xAF

8800GT Min: 18 Max: 28 Avg: 23
4850 Min: 16 Max: 28 Avg: 23

4. 4xAA 16xAF

8800GT Min: 14 Max: 24 Avg: 19
4850 Min 15 Max: 27 Avg: 22

Here's my default 3dmark 06 score with both cards

8800GT: 12600
4850: 11950
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On one hand, I'm impressed, as the lower 4800 model compares favorably with the 8800GT. I would have liked to see other comparisons though. On the other hand, the 8800GT holds its own, and I'm seeing them as low as $125 on Newegg now (where the hell were these deals 3-4 weeks ago when I was shopping!?).

I guess I have mixed feelings about it.

EDIT: Now I'm impressed.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-1/preview-ati-radeon-hd-4850.html

Smokes the 3870, which is the only card in that comparison I cared about.
 
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Yup , when using AA in 4850 it only looses few FPS , while with some game nvidia looses alot of performance :

http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-5/preview-ati-radeon-hd-4850.html


Crysis 1920x1200 4xAA
GT280 : 24.7
GT260 : 20.7
4850 : 16.9

GRID 1920x1200 4xAA
GT280 : 82.3
GT260 : 67.8
4850 : 70.0

World in confilict 1920x1200 4xAA
GT280 : 34
GT260 : 30
4850 : 27

Oblivion 1920x1200 4xAA
GT280 : 71.3
GT260 : 60.1
4850 : 66.3

Bioshock 1920x1200
GT280 : 139.4
GT260 : 115
4850 : 119.6

For a card going for $189 http://fxvideocards.com/Sapphire-HD-Radeon-4850-p-16386.html

4850 should be card for budget enthusiast.
 
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Your comparing a game that doesn't play very well on any card. Look at more games that have good engines for some real results. The 4850 preforms on par with the 9800GTX and better in many case. I dont think the cryengine is coded very well as nothing scales well with it.
 
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Not bad at all for a < $200 card. Interestingly enough, I'm shopping for a new card so this one might be the pick for me.
 
kaarel said:
My favorite Computerbase.de
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hardware/grafikkarten/2008/kurztest_ati_radeon_hd_4850_rv770/

Edit:
Clive Barker's Yericho 1600x1200 8XAA 16XAF
HD4850 is the fastest card. Yet it's on par with 9800GTX on lower res without AA/AF

Lost Planet 1600x1200
33FPS no AA/AF
29FPS with AAx8/AFx16

Conclusion:
with no AA/AF roughly equal to 9800GTX
@1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF the card destroys everything exept GTX 280 that is 31,8% faster
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Well the best way to analysis a card after reading the review, i just sort out the benchmark to analysis it to get better understanding. I am still hopping Nvidia drops the price of GTX 280 because i would really buy it for $500.

http://translate.google.com/tr...e&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

Computerbase sorted out DX 10 - Benchmark

Assassin's Creed 1680x1050 4xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 61
HD4850 : 56
9800GTX : 45

Bioshock 1600x1200 1xAA/16xAF
GT 280 : 82
HD4850 : 54
9800GTX : 53

Call of Juarez 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF
GT 280 : 24
HD4850 : 17
9800GTX : 6

Company of heroes 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF
GT 280 : 66
HD4850 : 42
9800GTX : 35

Crysis 1680x1050 4xAA/16xAF
GT 280 : 18
HD4850 : 11
9800GTX : 9

Lost planet 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 45
HD4850 : 29
9800GTX : 24

World in Conflict 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 69.1
HD4850 : 56.2
9800GTX : 41.1




Is their a problem with Nvidia drivers when running call of duty 4 with 8xAA ?


Computerbase DX 9 - Benchmark

Call of duty 4 4xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 62
HD4850 : 48
9800GTX : 46

Clive Barker's Jericho 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 26
HD4850 : 28
9800GTX : 7

FEAR 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 93
HD4850 : 60
9800GTX : 49

Gothic 3 1600x1200 1xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 76.3
HD4850 : 34.4
9800GTX : 46.7

Rainbow Six Vegas - 1600x1200
GT 280 : 65
HD4850 : 62
9800GTX : 49

Stalker 1600x1200 1xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 49
HD4850 : 35
9800GTX : 35

Unreal Tournament 3 1600x1200 8xAA/16xAF:
GT 280 : 72
HD4850 : 63
9800GTX : 34
 
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My God this card is a beast! For less than $200!? As far as I'm concerned, ATI is back on my radar.
 
Medion said:
One of the HardOCP forum goers got his card, and compared it directly to his 8800GT in Crysis. He paid $189 for the card.

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1316858



On one hand, I'm impressed, as the lower 4800 model compares favorably with the 8800GT. I would have liked to see other comparisons though. On the other hand, the 8800GT holds its own, and I'm seeing them as low as $125 on Newegg now (where the hell were these deals 3-4 weeks ago when I was shopping!?).

I guess I have mixed feelings about it.

EDIT: Now I'm impressed.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-1/preview-ati-radeon-hd-4850.html

Smokes the 3870, which is the only card in that comparison I cared about.
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My only problem with that dood's numbers is that I have a simularly performaing CPU in 3dmark 06 (mine is 2.33 and his is 2.4 unless he is overclocking) and the same friggin video card (mine is eVGA Superclocked edition) and I get 10,400 in 3DMARK06 and when I compare to simular systems on Futuremark, I do not see over 11,000 on 3DMARK06 yet he claims his standard score is 12,600 ?!

Um ok. :bleh:

C.
 
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cvearl said:
My only problem with that dood's numbers is that I have a simularly performaing CPU in 3dmark 06 (mine is 2.33 and his is 2.4 unless he is overclocking) and the same friggin video card (mine is eVGA Superclocked edition) and I get 10,400 in 3DMARK06 and when I compare to simular systems on Futuremark, I do not see over 11,000 on 3DMARK06 yet he claims his standard score is 12,600 ?!

Um ok. :bleh:

C.
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His rig is :
Intel E8400 Cpu
Evga 8800GT
Antec P180B
Intel Bonetrail X48
WD 640GB HD
Gskill 4gb DDR 3

The CPU's default speed is 3.0Ghz :lol:

I get 15220 3DM06 score (see rig)
 
minaelromany said:
His rig is :
Intel E8400 Cpu
Evga 8800GT
Antec P180B
Intel Bonetrail X48
WD 640GB HD
Gskill 4gb DDR 3

The CPU's default speed is 3.0Ghz :lol:

I get 15220 3DM06 score (see rig)
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That makes sense. Thanks!

3DMARK06 really scales ALOT with CPU it seems. My clocks on my 8800GT are not far behind yours by default I think. Well whatever the SC edition is. If he is overclocking the 8800GT, then he needs to overclock the 4850 I imagine.

I will wait for real reviews I guess. ;)

C.
 
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jolle said:
Looks like ATi is back in the game now, cant wait to see how the 4870 performs.
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For the sake of the industry, I hope it performs well, but I heard that it was only a 20% boost over the 4850. To me, that doesn't justify the rumored $300-330 price tag, relative to the 4850.

Still, that would put it within earshot of GT280 performance in many games, at half the price. So comparing it to NV, it's still priced unreasonably low. I guess I'm already spoiled by the price/performance of the HD4850, and it's "technically" not even out yet.

I'm actually considering getting the 4850 when it hits $150, and throwing the 9600GT into my wife's system. We'll see how my 9600 handles the newer games I buy. So far, it's handled everything thrown at it.
 
Medion said:
For the sake of the industry, I hope it performs well, but I heard that it was only a 20% boost over the 4850. To me, that doesn't justify the rumored $300-330 price tag, relative to the 4850.

Still, that would put it within earshot of GT280 performance in many games, at half the price. So comparing it to NV, it's still priced unreasonably low. I guess I'm already spoiled by the price/performance of the HD4850, and it's "technically" not even out yet.

I'm actually considering getting the 4850 when it hits $150, and throwing the 9600GT into my wife's system. We'll see how my 9600 handles the newer games I buy. So far, it's handled everything thrown at it.
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Well 8xAA performance will be ALOT better given the 2x bandwidth over the HD4850. So it will be more then 20% in games with higher AA and res.
 
SSXeon said:
Well 8xAA performance will be ALOT better given the 2x bandwidth over the HD4850. So it will be more then 20% in games with higher AA and res.
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True, but that's useless to me. I game at 1680x1050 with vysnc (I like locking my games at 60fps). So I try to set my settings in a way that allows for 60fps. For some games, like UT2K4 and Fable:TLC, I can already run at 16xQ AA/ 16xAF (in fact, I use 16xAF in all of my games). So I don't care about 8xAA performance on a high end card relative to mine.

But there are some games where I have to dial it down. I'm still deciding between 8x/16x AA in NFS:MW, the game is so poorly coded that I can't main 60fps even with no AA. Grid runs "fine" for me at 16xAA. It's likely not 60fps, but the game runs so smooth, I don't want to benchmark it and disappoint myself.

So for the games I'm playing right now, I don't need a performance boost. But if I run into bottlenecks with Burnout Paradise or SF4 (or any other future release I'm waiting on), then I'll strongly consider getting the HD4850.

Of course, the only bottleneck that would bug me would be going below 8xAF. I'm serious when I say that I can run at 1680x1050 with no AA, and have zero complaints about jaggies (though I do prefer using 4xAA at a minimum).
 
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