pax
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Ive known people with Sonatas and Elantras and they had probs. Mechanical mostly so expensive.
This a good price? 2014 Toyota Corolla
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Ive known people with Sonatas and Elantras and they had probs. Mechanical mostly so expensive.
I will never buy an American made piece of junk again. I've had two (pontiac and a mazda with a ford body) and they were both trash. And none of that euro-trash either.
Roadhog
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Them som fightin words.
How do you figure euro trash
Nissan is owned by Renault. They are a French company and they are known for crappy cars. BMW also makes shitty cars in terms of reliability. Volvo and VW have had problems in recent years.
Better question is what euro cars are good?
Volvo is pretty solid and so are VW. Volvo's popularity has seemed to go up in the last few years; I notice a lot more of them on the road now, especially the SUV. They make some great vehicles.
I have no idea where you're getting this idea that VWs don't last, especially recent years as you said.
I have no idea where you're getting this idea that VWs don't last, especially recent years as you said.
I would go Toyota or Honda if you want reliability, low maintenance and cheap parts and labor. Toyota would be cheaper than Honda. Nissan can eat a dick.
Also it you want American you can opt for Ford cars like Focus or Fiesta. Those are pretty good and possibly only American cars with good mileage.
I would still continue to hunt deals on Corollas.
Also it you want American you can opt for Ford cars like Focus or Fiesta. Those are pretty good and possibly only American cars with good mileage.
I would still continue to hunt deals on Corollas.
ElBerryKM13
Active member
I'll take a corolla over any brand foreign or domestic. These cars will last a long time with no issues. Thats why they are more expensive than any comparable car of other brands
pax
Well-known member
My sis THE DOCTOR is stuck on bare bone Sentras. Shes had good luck with them. Better than the civic she had before the first of 2 long lived sentras. 10+ years each. But I think the last one she got wasnt made in Old Mexico so...
She literally bought a stick shift no ac no cruise sentra last time. Says she'd rather put her money in things that dont bleed it...
OverclockN'
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People are making vast assumptions based on cars that haven't been made for years or making company wide judgements based on the worst cars of a generation that's long past.
Missing out on a lot of great cars by clutching your biases so tightly.
Missing out on a lot of great cars by clutching your biases so tightly.
https://repairpal.com/reliability/volkswagen
https://repairpal.com/reliability/volvo
Not so good with above average operating costs. Their reliability is average, nothing special and seems to be about the same as Nissan. They aren't what they used to be 30 years ago when they used to make solid cars (same as Nissan).
I wouldn't buy one for a used car anyway.
OverclockN'
Well-known member
Who is repairpal, and why should we trust them? I only glanced at the site, so I'm honestly not sure.
Even if a car was average reliability, I'm not sure how that makes it a problem or a terrible car to make any effort to steer people away.
What you're basically saying is, "Don't buy that car, it's terrible! It's only as reliable as everyhing else!". If you're on the hunt for the most reliable car, that's a little different. But it still doesn't make the one in question actually bad.
Even if a car was average reliability, I'm not sure how that makes it a problem or a terrible car to make any effort to steer people away.
What you're basically saying is, "Don't buy that car, it's terrible! It's only as reliable as everyhing else!". If you're on the hunt for the most reliable car, that's a little different. But it still doesn't make the one in question actually bad.
You're basing all of that off one website? I dunno man. The Jetta, Passat, and Golf have been fantastic in terms of value and reliability. You're dogging Nissan really hard, but the Altima was an extremely reliable vehicle in the 2000s into the following decade; though I haven't followed them in a few years as none of their vehicles interest me.
Volvo has slowly built up the S60 line into a very solid vehicle; I think it's still overpriced but they've continued to add feature after feature to the base model that's made it a more enticing offer.
VWs are very popular in my area and most of the guys I know don't have many issues. One buddy had issues with the DSG in his 2013 GTI, but that is the only person I know who's ran into issues..
Oh there are far more than just one website, there are youtube videos, other sites, articles, as well as individual reports. I wouldn't want to plunk down 10k+ and then end up in the shop after a year. Just because a car is popular doesn't mean it's good. Nissans were reliable, you are absolutely right but not anymore. Not since french company renault bought them. They have nasty tranny problems now.
I see Nissans, chevys, dodge, and ford all over the place around here. They are immensely popular but their reliability track record is poo (except for ford and chevy trucks, they seem to be ok).
As for the VW's, here's another;
Consumer reports is pretty much the gold standard on judging vehicle reliability. When they caution somebody about a vehicles reliability, it's probably a good idea to take note.
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I am on the hunt for the most reliable, but I think I found it. 2014 Corolla with 75k miles (bought extended warranty and took it to mechanic for a pre-purchase screening just in case). Car is in great condition, just needs tranny flushed and brake fluid changed.
Sasquach
Hidden in plain sight
HE just wants a car that is reliable and he doesn't have to think about anything going on with it.
Since Corolla is the gold standard for reliability (for good reason) that'll always be the top option for him.
Theres always suggestions for other cars, usually here on rage its either MOAR POWERS or GERMANS FTW!!! because the enthusiast group prefers something more than just Vanilla. Corolla is never suggested because its the most vanilla of all flavours, but it also happens to be the car that 99% of the time will never unexpected crap the bed on you.
OverclockN'
Well-known member
What does any of that have to do with the quote of mine you posted?