Titan RTX Just Announced

Nobody raised a stink when the Titan V was released at 3,000 dollars over a year ago, because everyone knew it wasn't a gaming card, even though it trounced the 1080Ti in gaming. It was aimed at the AI/neural network market and sold rather well to that segment.

This is the Titan V replacement also aimed at the AI/neural network market. Except now the price is actually cheaper at 2499. And the reason for this is because this card doesn't use gobs of expensive HBM2 memory, unlike the Titan V that did.

So those crying about the price on this, when its actually cheaper than the last gen it's replacing, makes me believe they really don't know what they're crying about.

I ask again, is anyone here part of the target audience? Or are we just gamers? If we're just gamers, then looking at this card is irrelevent.
 
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Nobody raised a stink when the Titan V was released at 3,000 dollars over a year ago, because everyone knew it wasn't a gaming card, even though it trounced the 1080Ti in gaming. It was aimed at the AI/neural network market and sold rather well to that segment.

This is the Titan V replacement also aimed at the AI/neural network market. Except now the price is actually cheaper at 2499. And the reason for this is because this card doesn't use gobs of expensive HBM2 memory, unlike the Titan V that did.

So those crying about the price on this, when its actually cheaper than the last gen it's replacing, makes me believe they really don't know what they're crying about.

I ask again, is anyone here part of the target audience? Or are we just gamers? If we're just gamers, then looking at this card is irrelevent.
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Well said.

Doesn't stop the 2080Ti being over priced though :-)
 
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Nobody raised a stink when the Titan V was released at 3,000 dollars over a year ago, because everyone knew it wasn't a gaming card, even though it trounced the 1080Ti in gaming. It was aimed at the AI/neural network market and sold rather well to that segment.

This is the Titan V replacement also aimed at the AI/neural network market. Except now the price is actually cheaper at 2499. And the reason for this is because this card doesn't use gobs of expensive HBM2 memory, unlike the Titan V that did.

So those crying about the price on this, when its actually cheaper than the last gen it's replacing, makes me believe they really don't know what they're crying about.

I ask again, is anyone here part of the target audience? Or are we just gamers? If we're just gamers, then looking at this card is irrelevent.
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The Titan used to be the ground work for the Ti sku. Now that Nvidia jumped the shark and Ti is part of the main consumer card line I guess people need to just shut up and stop crying and take that 1799 price tag on whatever Nvidia decides is gonna be the new big boy consumer card that's between the Ti and Titan.

That is unless Nvidia wants to confirm that ever since around the 9x0 series they've been pulling the wool over peoples eyes and down grading their GPU tiers but still sell them at previous tiers price.
 
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The only way to stop the Nvidia machine is stronger competition or consumers hitting that buying wall of resistance and neither is taking hold. Competition is falling behind and Nvidia is incrementally normalizing these prices.
 
SIrPauly said:
The only way to stop the Nvidia machine is stronger competition or consumers hitting that buying wall of resistance and neither is taking hold. Competition is falling behind and Nvidia is incrementally normalizing these prices.
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With the Vega 7NM only being aimed at AI/Workstation and Navi rumored to be a 1070/2070 range it will only get worse.

Nvidia at this point is competing against itself.

We'll have to wait till 2020 when Intel decides to enter the market. And that's probably the tail end of 2020 so we are looking pretty close to 3 years still before we see competition on the DGPU market....
 
Hapatingjaky said:
With the Vega 7NM only being aimed at AI/Workstation and Navi rumored to be a 1070/2070 range it will only get worse.

Nvidia at this point is competing against itself.

We'll have to wait till 2020 when Intel decides to enter the market. And that's probably the tail end of 2020 so we are looking pretty close to 3 years still before we see competition on the DGPU market....
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AMD may have a high end 7nm card 4Q next year but most likely 2020 the same time as Intel

AMD and Intel maybe working together on them
now that would be funny :lol:
 
Hapatingjaky said:
With the Vega 7NM only being aimed at AI/Workstation and Navi rumored to be a 1070/2070 range it will only get worse.

Nvidia at this point is competing against itself.

We'll have to wait till 2020 when Intel decides to enter the market. And that's probably the tail end of 2020 so we are looking pretty close to 3 years still before we see competition on the DGPU market....
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Agreed, that's why NV can charge whatever they want.
 
well there won't ever be a RTX 3080 ti




if true

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:lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdsTBsH-rI

I pray there is a RX 3090 also

but to steal the numbering :evil:

 
SIrPauly said:
Some gamers may buy it but the value is more aimed at the full precision professional market.

Things may change quickly with product and strategies and Amd actually did overtake and rip overall discrete share away from Nvidia some time ago; and could happen again as Moore's Law evaporates.
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Someone willing to spend that much just for gaming should have purchased Titan V, then they could have had 2080 Ti performance a year ago.

For people who actually need it for work it's a different story of course.
 
bill dennison said:
so it is slower at BFV than my 2080 ti Strix :lol:
for now


and it is CPU bound
as we are not going to get much more than 5gz anytime soon game makers really need to start using a lot more cores
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They compared it to an overclocked Strix, clocked much higher than yours, using Chiller. They also noted no driver optimizations or profiles for RTX, just like when the Titan V was slower than a 1080Ti in certain cases because that too lacked an optimization path just for games.

The point of the video is that if you're buying the Titan for gaming, you're stupid. It's a fully unlocked GPU compute card (the 2080ti is not) with 24GB of memory and unrestricted tensor core performance aimed at the same market the 3k dollar Titan V was, except now it doesn't use expensive HBM2 memory so it's cheaper.

Did you buy a Titan V Bill? Why or why not?
 
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They compared it to an overclocked Strix, clocked much higher than yours, using Chiller. They also noted no driver optimizations or profiles for RTX, just like when the Titan V was slower than a 1080Ti in certain cases because that too lacked an optimization path just for games.

The point of the video is that if you're buying the Titan for gaming, you're stupid. It's a fully unlocked GPU compute card (the 2080ti is not) with 24GB of memory and unrestricted tensor core performance aimed at the same market the 3k dollar Titan V was, except now it doesn't use expensive HBM2 memory so it's cheaper.

Did you buy a Titan V Bill? Why or why not?
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nope I don't think the strix is the ones using the Chiller and he said nothing about a strix on a Chiller on that test

he has sli on a Chiller bot I don't know what card brand they are
 
Cream said:
Which is why Nvidia have gone down a different road. We have enough performance, So they are looking at features.
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I think it is getting tougher and tougher to achieve raw performance these days based on the evaporation of Moore's law and a focus on engineering efficiency and fidelity and experience features.
 
bill dennison said:
nope I don't think the strix is the ones using the Chiller and he said nothing about a strix on a Chiller on that test

he has sli on a Chiller bot I don't know what card brand they are
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He also.said the performance was due to a missing driver profile on the Titan, which makes sense because you needed a driver update on the 2080ti to take advantage of that massive rtx improvement in battlefield 5.

There are no gaming profiles for the titan. Just like the Titan V it relies on raw performance in games.

A better comparison would be the pre patch driver it which rtx performance on the 2080ti wasnt that great. In which case the Titan would be faster based on raw performance alone.

Again this further shows the Titan isnt a true gaming card, its a gpu compute card first like the Titan V. As posted previously in the first article and repeated many times over by those reviewing this, "The TITAN RTX is very much focused on deep learning developers and AI researchers who work with larger neural networks and data sets, so for gamers, the RTX 2080 Ti is still the premier card."

I don't know why that is such a shock to some people.
 
Cream said:
Which is why Nvidia have gone down a different road. We have enough performance, So they are looking at features.
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I don't think that's really true though. Both VR and 4K can use a lot more performance. I think Nvidia made a questionable choice by not holding off on RTX for the next generation, or the one after, and instead using that die space to increase traditional renderer performance.
 
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