What is this craziness!?

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/55341/amd-radeon-gpu-tech-power-intels-next-gen-igpus/index.html

As one of the comments on the HardOCP post said: "The real question is, what did AMD get in return? Money? Intel cross licensing?"
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NVidia :lol:
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HFS. I want to see Adored do a number on this one. He might want to revisit his GPU wars are over theme.
 
ShaidarHaran said:
Not sure if serious so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and just laugh at what I presume you mean to be a joke. :lol:
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Just a reaction to the GIF above:lol: . If true, this will not influence nVidias bottom line much. Might siphon off some low end sales but Nvidia makes its money at the high end.

I think this is AMDs desperate attempt to stay relevant on the PC.
 
It makes a lot of sense that AMD would be in this deal and not Nvidia. AMD already has the expertise of combining a CPU and a GPU. I doubt Nvidia could even compete here.

At the same time I'm a little surprised, because Intel has made pretty big strides in their integrated GPUs in recent years, at least based on benchmarks. I've never actually used one, so I don't know how good the drivers are or how good the Intel iGPU works in actual practice.

It could be that Intel decided that it wasn't worth spending the money on research which was basically just duplicating what AMD was doing, when AMD was already ahead. It could be a win-win for both of them.
 
Nagorak said:
It makes a lot of sense that AMD would be in this deal and not Nvidia. AMD already has the expertise of combining a CPU and a GPU. I doubt Nvidia could even compete here.

At the same time I'm a little surprised, because Intel has made pretty big strides in their integrated GPUs in recent years, at least based on benchmarks. I've never actually used one, so I don't know how good the drivers are or how good the Intel iGPU works in actual practice.

It could be that Intel decided that it wasn't worth spending the money on research which was basically just duplicating what AMD was doing, when AMD was already ahead. It could be a win-win for both of them.
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Or Intel has determined that Zen can't compete and licensing Radeon graphics tech will help keep the lights on at AMD. Prevent anti-trust breakup, etc.
 
GTwannabe said:
Or Intel has determined that Zen can't compete and licensing Radeon graphics tech will help keep the lights on at AMD. Prevent anti-trust breakup, etc.
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They could be thinking that, who knows? But, I don't think that's as much of an issue anymore. Even if Intel was alone in the X86 market, the overall universe of CPUs has moved on from just being in computers. Now with phones/tablets being dominated by ARM, and the whole computing industry sort of competing with those other areas, I don't think there's really a strong anti-trust argument anymore.

AMD has also been providing such limited competition anyway in recent years, that I'm not sure how much they've contributed to keeping prices in check, vs the entire slowing computer industry keeping them in check.
 
This makes perfect sense, what makes more sense is for Intel to just buy AMD. There are enough competitors out there IMO where this would not be an antitrust issue.
 
Skynet said:
This makes perfect sense, what makes more sense is for Intel to just buy AMD. There are enough competitors out there IMO where this would not be an antitrust issue.
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who would compete with PC's? Intel would own all CPU products. Obviously if I was Intel, AMD, Nvidia I would be trying to get into the smart phone market. Thats where all the business is going to be.

If your just an average Joe who doesn't really care about gaming and only really needs a computer for internet and email why would get a PC?

I haven't checked but PC sales have to be hurting. I know they were trending downward the last I checked.
 
dmanna said:
who would compete with PC's? Intel would own all CPU products. Obviously if I was Intel, AMD, Nvidia I would be trying to get into the smart phone market. Thats where all the business is going to be.

If your just an average Joe who doesn't really care about gaming and only really needs a computer for internet and email why would get a PC?

I haven't checked but PC sales have to be hurting. I know they were trending downward the last I checked.
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Smart phone market is a race to the bottom with SoC. Intel pulled out and nVidia's Tegra hasn't been used in anything for quite a while.
 
Skynet said:
This makes perfect sense, what makes more sense is for Intel to just buy AMD. There are enough competitors out there IMO where this would not be an antitrust issue.
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Yeah, let me head down to Best Buy and pick up one of their many laptops powered by a VIA x86 processor... :nuts:
 
Nagorak said:
It makes a lot of sense that AMD would be in this deal and not Nvidia. AMD already has the expertise of combining a CPU and a GPU. I doubt Nvidia could even compete here.

At the same time I'm a little surprised, because Intel has made pretty big strides in their integrated GPUs in recent years, at least based on benchmarks. I've never actually used one, so I don't know how good the drivers are or how good the Intel iGPU works in actual practice.

It could be that Intel decided that it wasn't worth spending the money on research which was basically just duplicating what AMD was doing, when AMD was already ahead. It could be a win-win for both of them.
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Their IRIS units were pretty good performance wise. The non IRIS units were not, but have crept up from its obscurity to become more than adequate nowadays. But I would wager a guess that compatibility and/or drivers remains its Achilles heel.

The other problem I suppose is that they keep the IRIS units on the highest end processors which evidently doesn't even get used all that much since the highest end units typically just gets paired with faster discrete GPU's.
The lower end uCPU's keep the non iris graphics which again for the most part just turns out OK. I think they definitely could scare AMD if they transitioned everything to the IRIS GPU's, but I guess antitrust issues could crop up if they did that.
 
Next up, AMD closes down its processor division after a failed Zen launch...

:bleh:

But seriously, I don't quite understand the consequences of this move but it is a good one to make NVidia only a niche player in the whole GPU game.
 
THis is some interesting ****, but again its just a rumor that Kyle started, even Forbes stated that the rumor started at HardOCP by slick dick Bennette.

But in how man ways can this benefit AMD? A million, me thinks AMD's Zen is not going to the savior everyone thought it would be. It will be decent but still nowhere near where everyone wanted it to be. Intel's iGPU is not great, they've made strides over the years but its still just like AMD's processor market not where everyone wants it to be. So why not a partnership? You can have the best iGPU in the business inside the best processor in business.

But in how many ways can this backfire on AMD? I can think of only one, after years of the iGPU/CPU partnership Intel has had enough time to look at AMD's engineering of the iGPU and decides they don't want to share anymore and makes their own iGPU, or vice versa and AMD wants to make a killer CPU.

All in all Nvidia is probably running scared at the moment. This will give AMD a huge cash infusion that they can put in to the GPU side of AMD.

This is great for AMD.
 
While it is only one data point someone I know who works for Intel in their graphics team announced yesterday he is leaving to go work with the Frostbite team.

Coincidence of timing?
Maybe...
 
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