Xbox One - News and Info
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Dungeoncrawler
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is the xb1 controller just plug and play on pc?
Dungeoncrawler
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SubCog
Radeon 8500 64mb
So xbone now has mouse + keyboard support. I have a prediction about that:
The nextgen xbox will have a ryzen cpu, and should be capable of running games at 60fps consistently. Honestly, if I could buy a console like that, with mouse & keyboard support, I'd happily put one on my desk next to my computer and game on it instead of my PC. Even if it costs $500 and I have to buy a new one every few years, it's still cheaper & easier than maintaining my gaming pc. And honestly I'm tired of all the work it takes to get my pc collection working properly.
I think the nextgen xbox may be going after the pc gaming market. 'Makes sense, if they want to compete with Steam, etc. Also differentiates them from sony, assuming they don't try to do the same thing.
Of course, to really get me away from PC gaming, they'd have to get UT2k4 on the xbox!
The nextgen xbox will have a ryzen cpu, and should be capable of running games at 60fps consistently. Honestly, if I could buy a console like that, with mouse & keyboard support, I'd happily put one on my desk next to my computer and game on it instead of my PC. Even if it costs $500 and I have to buy a new one every few years, it's still cheaper & easier than maintaining my gaming pc. And honestly I'm tired of all the work it takes to get my pc collection working properly.
I think the nextgen xbox may be going after the pc gaming market. 'Makes sense, if they want to compete with Steam, etc. Also differentiates them from sony, assuming they don't try to do the same thing.
Of course, to really get me away from PC gaming, they'd have to get UT2k4 on the xbox!
Nascar24
ASUS 4090 TUF
Game must support the mouse and keyboard and they will match you against mouse and keyboard players in multiplayer as there is definitely a big advantage over a controller. As long as its wireless I am for it as I don't have a bunch of extra room and my X1X isn't located where wires would work out that well. I'm all for more powerful consoles as the latest $1300 plus for just the high end video card is stupid.
OverclockN'
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Having recently bought the PS4 Pro and gaming only on that the past month, I can definitely understand why people move to the consoles and stop PC gaming. It's crossed my mind as well.
However, this statement confused me.
Is this still a thing? Working how? I can't remember the last time I've had a problem anything not "working" on PC gaming, and I play darn near everything. I had the power supply/hardware issues I guess causing games to crash, but that was about it.
However, this statement confused me.
Is this still a thing? Working how? I can't remember the last time I've had a problem anything not "working" on PC gaming, and I play darn near everything. I had the power supply/hardware issues I guess causing games to crash, but that was about it.
SubCog
Radeon 8500 64mb
I built a new gaming rig this summer. Ryzen 2700x, Radeon 580, 16gigs ram, etc. Honestly my last several upgrades have been chasing Crysis 1, still trying to get it to run smooth. So I get my new system up, and I install Crysis fresh off of Steam, and guess what? I doesn't work. I eventually did get it working, a week later, by downloading somebody's 64bit exe, I think they pulled from Crysis Warhead. Had to mess with it a bunch though, figure out exactly which folder to put it in, etc. Actually, there's a ton of older games on Steam that don't run properly after a basic install.
Even games that do run with a clean install, I still have to mess with. UT2k4 was a stuttery mess until I got exactly the right combination of v-sync & freesync settings, plus limiting the framerate.
Newer games tend to run fine out of the box, as long as my system hits the recommended specs. But there's still issues with full-screen vs borderless, multitasking, etc.
If I could just put a gaming console on my desk next to my PC, a console where everything just runs beautifully without any configuration, at smooth framerates and mouse & keyboard support, I'd be happy to switch to that. Even if there are graphics quality compromises, I'd be okay with that too. But looking at something like the xbone x, and how finely optimized games are for that, the compromises don't seem so bad at all.
OverclockN'
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I think it's a bit odd that you want to be done with PC gaming and use some old games as the examples. I get what you're saying, as the beauty of PC gaming is that you can fire up any old game and play it. Well, suppose to be able to. 
Normally, I'd bring up the whole console problem where they aren't backward compatible...so in order to do what you just tried to do, you would need the old console AND the old game to go back and play. Most people don't have them or want to play them. You're a retro gamer though, and still have all the old systems like I do. So...moot point in this special case.
I've always preferred PC gaming as it's the easiest way to fire up old games and also play them like you've never experienced them before due to better hardware. Also seem to have avoided all the problems you've run into with the games I play, but I get you're point.
Consoles though...aren't going to fix that problem.
Normally, I'd bring up the whole console problem where they aren't backward compatible...so in order to do what you just tried to do, you would need the old console AND the old game to go back and play. Most people don't have them or want to play them. You're a retro gamer though, and still have all the old systems like I do. So...moot point in this special case.
I've always preferred PC gaming as it's the easiest way to fire up old games and also play them like you've never experienced them before due to better hardware. Also seem to have avoided all the problems you've run into with the games I play, but I get you're point.
Consoles though...aren't going to fix that problem.
OverclockN'
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Big reason why I will keep buying the latest and greatest XBOX is back compat. Its the same as having a steam library, 400 games loaded up on my X1X and counting.
The old discs work in the new XBox now? If that's the case, cool. I had no idea.
I suspect you don't have 400 XBox games lying around though and it's all digital library stuff. So...all the same games were purchased again. Which is absolutely ridiculous. Hell, you can fix most of the old Windows game problems by dual booting and forcing single core.
jimjobob
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Yes, old discs do work and no, its not like PSN where you have to buy a specific copy for each new system. If you owned it on the xbox store, you still do and it works with the One/OneX. If you own the X, quite a few are enhanced and run native 4k@60fps as well. Red Dead Redemption looks pretty damn good. A decent number of original Xbox discs work as well.
OverclockN'
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If the original discs work, that's awesome.
If it's a purchased digital version in any way, I take issue with that being called "backward compatible". But I guess that's just semantics.
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Nascar24
ASUS 4090 TUF
If the original discs work, that's awesome.
If it's a purchased digital version in any way, I take issue with that being called "backward compatible". But I guess that's just semantics.
A lot of what I purchased digital on Xbox 360 works on the Xbox one as well as many of my disc games as well. The disc really is only used to verify that you own it and it downloads it digital to your Xbox one. Although it does require the disc every time you call it up for verification purposes. Also it is not every 360 game that is back compat. They have recently started back compat original Xbox games as well.
OverclockN'
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Awesome. It's great that there are options for the old games now. Im seriously questioning for the first time how much longer I'll be PC gaming. If cards don't get cheaper, I'm probably out. We'll see.
Nascar24
ASUS 4090 TUF
In what sense? That every game isn't compatible? I think for the foreseeable future as long as they keep the X86 architecture everything will be back compat. They have to work on the old games in emulation to get them to work, and also one of the reasons you don't see Sony doing it as the PS3 used their cell processor and they obviously feel its to much work to back compat. games.
List is quite large.
https://www.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/backward-compatibility/available-games
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Oh it was just a misunderstanding on my part. I thought you could play any xbox disc ever on the xb1x. I know that's insane but I misread what someone said here and thought they pulled off some huge feat. I also take the term "backwards compatible" very seriously it seems!
You're right though, that's a lot of games.
You're right though, that's a lot of games.