Good computer case to buy?

Dunno man. I had mine top mounted as exhaust and my 9900K never broke 50c. Before the Hybrid cooler, obvs.

It's a Ryzen. They run hot. At this rate it's becoming borderline obsessive .. just leave the PC alone.
 
demo, I did the front mount of the radiator. Initially I was impressed by it but when I really spent time gaming (as in 2-3 hours) I noticed the following:

My GPU was hitting 69-70 C. Fan RPM shot up to 2650 (almost 80% fan speed). GPU lowered boost bins by about 50 MHz.
My chipset fan came on and was operating at 72 C with 2000 RPM. That tiny fan makes a bitch of a noise.
My ram started hitting 60-62 C (depending on time of day).
My CPU was the only thing that benefitted and that too was 5 C lower (longer session in Immortals Fenyx Rising led it to climb up to 75 C).
To top it all off the CPU stopped boosting to 5.1 Gs and would not go above 4999 MHz.
My hard disks ran 2-5 C higher.

Since I went back and top mounted the rad.
My GPU runs max 65 C (w/ 1900 RPM fan). Boosts higher as well. 2000+ MHz.
My chipset fan never comes on. Runs at 60 C max.
Ram doesn't break 53 C.
CPU hits max 80 C (85 C in CBR20). Boosts to 5.05-5.1 Gs when temps are low.
HDDs run normal temps.

I already have voltage applied to 1.25 volts override mode. Anything lower resulted in stuttering in Immortals Fenyx Rising. All other benches and games work fine at 1.225 volts.

Nunz, I am more worried about summer and if I can make changes right now (and move the cost to better components, it might be a good time to do it). Getting a basic Lian Li would reduce the cost by about 80 bucks making the whole setup move about 120-150 bucks (depending on how low I have to sell my current components).
 
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Nunz said:
Dunno man. I had mine top mounted as exhaust and my 9900K never broke 50c. Before the Hybrid cooler, obvs.

It's a Ryzen. They run hot. At this rate it's becoming borderline obsessive .. just leave the PC alone.
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Yeh they do run hot. I personally wouldn't like temps that high for stability and boost reasons, but I've never owned Ryzen, if it's par for the course then carry on.
 
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Yeh they do run hot. I personally wouldn't like temps that high for stability and boost reasons, but I've never owned Ryzen, if it's par for the course then carry on.
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Everyone I know is also running same temps. Mine are not worse compared to anyone else. People with custom loop are running 80 C in CBR20 (I am on 85 C).
Question was more around if I have a case that allows me to add 10+3 fans will things be better and by how much?

This is what the build will cost. About 552 boners.
 
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demo, I did the front mount of the radiator. Initially I was impressed by it but when I really spent time gaming (as in 2-3 hours) I noticed the following:

My GPU was hitting 69-70 C. Fan RPM shot up to 2650 (almost 80% fan speed). GPU lowered boost bins by about 50 MHz.
My chipset fan came on and was operating at 72 C with 2000 RPM. That tiny fan makes a bitch of a noise.
My ram started hitting 60-62 C (depending on time of day).
My CPU was the only thing that benefitted and that too was 5 C lower (longer session in Immortals Fenyx Rising led it to climb up to 75 C).
To top it all off the CPU stopped boosting to 5.1 Gs and would not go above 4999 MHz.
My hard disks ran 2-5 C higher.

Since I went back and top mounted the rad.
My GPU runs max 65 C (w/ 1900 RPM fan). Boosts higher as well. 2000+ MHz.
My chipset fan never comes on. Runs at 60 C max.
Ram doesn't break 53 C.
CPU hits max 80 C (85 C in CBR20). Boosts to 5.05-5.1 Gs when temps are low.
HDDs run normal temps.

Here is a snapshot after playing WDL for 1 hour. I already have voltage applied to 1.25 volts override mode. Anything lower resulted in stuttering in Immortals Fenyx Rising. All other benches and games work fine at 1.225 volts.
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Stupid question, have you tried turning your AIO and case fans up? Even just to test.
 
I did run the pump at extreme setting (from 2200 RPM to 2650 RPM). It started making noticeable noise. Fans I ran max at 1400 RPM (I think they have a limit of 1500 RPM). The temp delta was 2 C so I backed down because the noise was killing me.
I run exhaust fans at 1300 RPM and intakes at 1200. Pump at 2200.
 
Sure air flow will be better but I don't think changing case will make a huge difference. Waste of money IMHO.

If you do, here's a size comparison:

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The XL is too big and completely unnecessary for a build like yours. Look at all the empty space in my smaller OG in the PC pics thread..

The only reason you may want the XL is if you buy a 3090 Strix or some other stupidly wide card. The pcie cables are touching the glass with my FTW3 Ultra, which itself is ridiculously wide - for reference it's about 20mm wider than your 3080 TUF.
 
Hmm, in that case forget about it. I really like this case but it seems a bit smaller compared to the cases I have had in the past (Corsair 760T, CM HAF X :bleh: ). I will see when the summer comes if I need to re-do the whole thing.

Thanks for inputs!
 
You always talk about how your ambient temps are high. Is there anything you can do to improve that? I think lowering your room temperature may actually be a big part of fixing your system temp issue.

Other than that I agree I think you're obsessing about it too much. As long as your clock speeds aren't getting badly throttled I wouldn't even worry about it. And you swap out components often enough that I doubt degradation would ever be a factor. Just don't worry about it and game on.
 
Yes, I dropped the whole idea of a rebuild for now. It is too much money for 2-5 C gains. I am, however, still contemplating getting an EK AIO. I just don’t want to be the first one to get the product as EK products need multiple revisions before they are any good.
 
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If I was going to buy a cooler now it would be a NH-D15 chromax black - Noctua.

I know it's a beasty ****er, but it's pretty much the best.
 
It's the best for an air-cooler, but it's not the best performing cooler on the market.
 
I went through about 50 or so Amazon reviews and Newegg reviews on both Corsair H150i Capillex and EK AIO. Out of 50 at least 5-8 reviews each were negative stating the pump failed or was noisy. That for me is more than 10% failure rate. I also learnt that the new Corsair AIO are from Coolit. As far as I remember they were garbage products. I am happy with the Asetek unit I have for now. EK as always will take at least a few more months and revisions before their AIO is worth a damn. Already I lost a lot of time and money on their stupid EK Predator product line.

So I ended up ordering a pack of 2 ML 120 fans since one of my fans was clicking. It must have happened when I removed the fans and put them bundled up in my cupboard. So I need to remove 1 but couldn't find a 1 pack. 2 for 30 bucks shipped to my door didn't seem like a bad deal.

Air coolers work great in cooler environments. For my case in summers the air coolers I used long time back led to very high temperatures. Though to be fair I never tested the Noctua DH-15 but I have seen enough reviews to demonstrate that an AIO works better for CPU cooling. VRM etc. is not a problem I need to solve as the motherboard I have has best VRM cooling in its class for $220 and matches $500+ motherboards in the temps department.
 
As far as I've seen, there is no cooler on the market that will drop your Ryzen temps below 80. Unless you want to start resorting to more exotic methods like using chilled water, or liquid nitrogen, think you're out of luck.


The point about ambient temperature is a major one. You should focus on those.



Alternatively, you can turn off all turbo boosting features on the processor. It will run a lot cooler then.
 
These days ambient is 22-23 C. I will ask God to reduce temps in the desert so my Ryzen can run faster. :bleh:

Unless I run AC full blast the ambient is not going to come down. The other option is to put the case on a table but I don’t have the space for that so I am pretty much stuck with the setup I have. Keeping it under the table is the only option for me right now. I have looked to change the table but couldn’t find anything that fits in a corner and also allows for putting the computer on a desk.

I can look for wall mounting the case but it too will be completely out of place for an upstairs lounge.
 
Actually I can have more AC but there is a thing called humans also living in the house. And they somehow prefer 22-24 C temps :bleh:.
 
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