nVidia next GPU rumor thread

I think the refresh cycle may depend on what Nvidia thinks AMD is doing. If they believe AMD is going to be releasing new designs on a yearly basis, then maybe they have to step up their efforts.

In terms of rasterization AMD is currently basically on par with Nvidia. Ampere wins at 4K, while RDNA2 wins at 1440P and below, so it just depends. Nvidia is a head on features, but another iteration may close a lot of the gap on the ray tracing side. We'll have to see what happens with AMD's DLSS alternative.

So, if RDNA3 comes out in a year, then Nvidia is going to need something to compete with. I get the impression that the company really does not want to be #2, or maybe even tied for #1. The truth of the matter is Nvidia has been able to coast for a long time now, and set whatever schedule they wanted, since AMD really wasn't competing at all beyond the midrange. If competition heats up, then product cycles may get shorter.
 
Spot on Nagorak, agreed with your view of the market. AMD came back very strong and once they have a DLSS implementation they'll be even stronger so nV gotta play to win, no easy game now.
 
Nagorak said:
I think the refresh cycle may depend on what Nvidia thinks AMD is doing. If they believe AMD is going to be releasing new designs on a yearly basis, then maybe they have to step up their efforts.

In terms of rasterization AMD is currently basically on par with Nvidia. Ampere wins at 4K, while RDNA2 wins at 1440P and below, so it just depends. Nvidia is a head on features, but another iteration may close a lot of the gap on the ray tracing side. We'll have to see what happens with AMD's DLSS alternative.

So, if RDNA3 comes out in a year, then Nvidia is going to need something to compete with. I get the impression that the company really does not want to be #2, or maybe even tied for #1. The truth of the matter is Nvidia has been able to coast for a long time now, and set whatever schedule they wanted, since AMD really wasn't competing at all beyond the midrange. If competition heats up, then product cycles may get shorter.
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There are no RDNA2 cards in retail. It's basically a cluster**K. They can't get these cards out let alone thinking about RDNA3. TSMC are supposed to be making the wafers for them so they need to release the 6XXX in loads of numbers. Unfortunately they screwed the pooch with too many launches of consoles and Zen 3. You reap what you sow as they say. RDNA 3 maybe 2022 or 2023 at this rate.

Nvidia are basically laughing at this moment. AMD ray tracing? Don't think so. DLSS equivalent no where near. Being screwed by M$ and Sony maybe so. Consoles first, Zen 3 second and Radeon last. That's the way.
 
Nascar24 said:
Not buying we will see new cards until sometime in 2022.
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Lovelace is a repeat of the gtx 580 that was a fixed gtx 480 that took 8 months between them

Lovelace 4080 ti 14 to 18gb will be on TSMC 7nm in 6 to 9 months and there will never be a 3080 ti

they most likely had this ready to go to tape out when the Jacket lost them TSMC this time and had to switch to Samstung

it's most likely already taped out now
it will be 30% faster than a 3080 or maybe 3090 but be back to a 250 watt card
 
acroig said:
nV will release a 3080Ti to go against the 6900XT..... unless the XT remains vaporware.
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the 3000's are still vaporware also till you can buy one at a store without a camping tent and a blankie :bleh:

and who is going to buy it with Lovelace soon

this gen is dead on non arrival for both NV & AMD GPU's
it's time to move on and i think NV will as they know AMD plans RDNA 3 in 2021
 
bill dennison said:
the 3000's are still vaporware also till you can buy one at a store without a camping tent and a blankie :bleh:

and who is going to buy it with Lovelace soon

this gen is dead on non arrival for both NV & AMD GPU's
it's time to move on and i think NV will as they know AMD plans RDNA 3 in 2021
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How many guys here have a 3000 series card vs a 6000 series?

Not exactly a scientific poll but it does dispute your vaporware argument. TSMC is up to the hilt churning out console and Ryzen CPUs so Radeon took a back seat. Maybe nV did the right thing going with Samsung?

I know, can't get either... 2020. :bleh:
 
acroig said:
How many guys here have a 3000 series card vs a 6000 series?

Not exactly a scientific poll but it does dispute your vaporware argument. TSMC is up to the hilt churning out console and Ryzen CPUs so Radeon took a back seat. Maybe nV did the right thing going with Samsung?

I know, can't get either... 2020. :bleh:
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there both vaporware till they are in stock on Best buy, amazon or newegg for more than split second at a time

and if it takes 4 to 6 months for them to fix the stock i might as well wait for Navi 3 RDNA 3 at the end of the year when everyone has had the vaccine and is running all over being nuts and not buying PC parts
it will most likely take that long to fix 2077 also:lol:
 
bill dennison said:
the 3000's are still vaporware also till you can buy one at a store without a camping tent and a blankie :bleh:

and who is going to buy it with Lovelace soon

this gen is dead on non arrival for both NV & AMD GPU's
it's time to move on and i think NV will as they know AMD plans RDNA 3 in 2021
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Bill just a few points.

1. You can't announce a launch and then don't do it and move on to the next generation. Investors get spooked you can't execute launches anymore, and share price tanks. Investors own companies not management.

2. AMD will have priced 6xx sales into next profit statement. No sales not good statement stock tanks.

3. Lisa Su announced the 6xxx series it's on her watch. Fail to deliver and she's gone. She also announced the 6xxx series would permeate down the stack aka 6700XT and below. No delivery erodes credibility.

4. What about all these 6xxx wafers AMD has ordered? TSMC want paying.

5. I don't think you can suddenly change to 5nm node production once you've agreed to 7nm for 6xxx series.

6. Phil Spencer doesn't expect console demand to reach supply until their Q4 which is April to June.

7. I ordered a 3090 on 15/12 delivered 17/12. So not vaporware although I accept your argument about AMD launching later. Never got near a 6900XT.

8. For what you paid for your 2080ti I think I got a bargain with my 3090 :lol:

Same goes for Nvidia they signed a new deal with Samsung so that sounds like they are going to flesh out the 3xxx series through the stack at least. They have nothing to worry about at the moment as the 6900XT can't keep up in 4K. They don't need Lovelace they're spanking AMD up and down the stack ATM.

Forget RDNA3 it ain't coming till 2022 and then probably as an Instinct card. So are you sticking with the 2080ti for a year or so or are you going to flinch and get a LC 3090?
 
Definitely not vaporware, there are just to many people buying then there are parts to supply. New cards are a long ways out, 2022 at the earliest. No way they are moving on when they are making a killing on these and will be for at least the next 6 months.
 
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