Official AMD Ryzen 5000 Series & 7000 Series Thread

Only reason I can figure the 7800X3D is a month later is that they need to build up inventory for that part...or they want us to buy the pricier models...
 
I believe they want to sell the higher models first knowing damn well the 7800x3d will have almost identical gaming performance and would cannibalise their sales.. X3D chips are after all gaming focused chips, no one is buying the 7950x3d for productivity.
 
Kind of annoying that they are holding the 7800X3D back, but I will likely wait for it. For a gaming system more than 8 cores rarely matters, and I already have other 16 core systems for productivity tasks. I feel a single CCD is also more reliable for gaming. Although two CCDs works fine most of the time there is still the odd game that migrates threads between the CPUs resulting in lost or inconsistent performance, and that would be especially bad with the X3D versions. But we'll see what the reviews show. Maybe it won't be an issue.

With that being said the 7900X3D is kind of iffy for me because you only have six X3D cores. Six cores is generally enough for gaming now, but four cores (with not SMT) was also enough for gaming for a long time up until it suddenly wasn't. My i5 2500K was a great buy, but my i5 7600K definitely was not.
 
Game performance isn't mind blowing but I'm still impressed. Its pretty much the same multi core and gaming performance as Intel with half the power draw. Runs games at 15C lower temps and production work at 20C lower temps. Requires a less powerful cooler and comes with a platform that has more PCIE 5.0 lanes and longer support. Pretty great chip. I'd buy one if I were looking to build a PC right now. Pretty cool how the CCD without cache allows it to pretty much keep up with the 7950X while using the 8 cores with cache to give it a 14% uplift in gaming.
 
Really depends on the game but some games get a massive uplift. Kind of hoping the ryzen 8000's ups the core count per ccd to 12 to 16 and get the X3D of that in a couple years. Id still probably only get the 8 core of that as its plenty for games and upgrade the platform later with the ryzen 9000's tho that might be the end of the road for am5 at that point.
 
I think the HUB review is the best since it simulates the 7800X3D. Although in a couple of cases the dual CCD part comes out ahead, in others it falls quite a bit behind, suggesting the whole CPU selection thing isn't working 100%. For just a gaming build I think the 7800X3D makes the most sense, and I will likely wait to get it.

 
the_sextein said:
Game performance isn't mind blowing but I'm still impressed. Its pretty much the same multi core and gaming performance as Intel with half the power draw. Runs games at 15C lower temps and production work at 20C lower temps. Requires a less powerful cooler and comes with a platform that has more PCIE 5.0 lanes and longer support. Pretty great chip. I'd buy one if I were looking to build a PC right now. Pretty cool how the CCD without cache allows it to pretty much keep up with the 7950X while using the 8 cores with cache to give it a 14% uplift in gaming.
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Haven’t seen reviews yet. Seems like the CPU like dope?
 
No its not dope. It is utter garbage for the price point.
Power draw nonsense at least I don't care about.
 
KAC said:
No its not dope. It is utter garbage for the price point.
Power draw nonsense at least I don't care about.
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Yea but the 7800X3D will be way less than the 13900ks and blow it out of the water at least in some key games... If price is the only issue just wait another month.
 
Geez all the hoops one needs to jump through concerning drivers, bios, gamebar, and other settings and updates just to get it working right is a bit much..
 
I have a 5800x3D. I don’t think anyone is blowing anyone out of the water. It is about the platform not the price. Intel 13900K seems like the most well rounded CPU without having to worry about schedulers and other crap. Just plug in and play all day. When it’s time to do some productivity work, it also smashes that. I really should’ve listened to my gut and bought the 13900K when it came out.

And yes, it is a pain to get it working. Btw if the game is not "detected" both CCDs will be running and it will diminish the experience in the game a bit.

On topic of price, I think HU said you can build an Intel for 1 G and an AMD for 1.2 G. 20% price increase for similar performance and compatibility issues down the line. No thanks please.
 
KAC, If you are actually using your CPU for productivity then I don't know how using half the power and running 20C lower temp wouldn't matter. My runs half the day which is why the 7950X was a no brainer over the13900K. Either way the AMD platform has more PICE 5 lanes so your NVME drive doesn't crimp your GPU and the socket will be supported into the future while Intels isn't.

Intel's CPU isn't faster at anything and is an inferior design. The 5800X3D is about the speed of the 13900K when it comes to games so I don't know why you would even care to upgrade for gaming purposes as there is no difference between 80FPS at 180FPS. If you think it matters than I would suggest you curb your OCD, cause it's clearly a mental thing that is allowing you to be taken advantage of by dumb companies.

The 5800X3D will be good to go for 2 more years at least before any game becomes CPU bound at 4k. That's why I didn't care about a couple percent slower performance in games when I bought my 7950X. Everything is GPU bound at 4k and I will always push to 6K DLDSR if I have the power to do so. I'll be GPU bound for a long time. Buying a faster chip means it will provide no difference until it's end of life where it's CPU bind will be less and allow you to use it longer. If you replace your CPU's before they become a bottleneck then there is no reason to even care how fast they are. Buy a midrange CPU and replace it next year if you can't refrain from constantly buying stuff. It will save you alot more than $200.

BTW, I'm not saying this to talk down to you or disrespect you, I'm giving you my honest opinion. The upgrade from the 5900 to a 5800X3D was a bad decision and upgrading again from the 5800X3D to the 13900K is a waste as well. Unless you are doing heavy rendering or video editing. If that is the case then AMD is the far better choice as they offer the best performance with the lowest temps and longer platform support.
 
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