RV870 rumor thread !

huh-huh :bleh: ....


The only real specifications that have been going around is the very loose rumor of 2000 shaders, and it doesn't look very likely. AMD is looking to master 45nm with its GPUs first of all and further improve its multi-GPU design, before doing anything radical. The RV870 will be faster than RV770, but don't expect the same jump we saw when moving from RV670 to RV770.
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It's been known for some time that RV870 would be a shrink of RV770. The node following 65/55nm would be 45/40nm, but we weren't sure if AMD would go to 45nm or directly to half-node 40nm. It's now clear that AMD will go directly to 40nm and aim for a performance per watt ratio twice that of RV770. RV870 has been code-named "Lil Dragon", which does indicate that this will be something small, yet something to fear.

The overall performance has been suggested to be somewhere around 20% better than RV770 with a significant drop in power consumption. This points to 960 shaders (192x5), 48 texture units, 24 ROPs and so forth. If this is the case, TDP of the RV870 should be around 150W at most with today's frequencies. This is just an estimate on our part as technical specifications are still hard to come by. We also presume AMD to stay at DirectX 10.1 for now.
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so many unconfirmed news.... no more news on the dual die GPU thing....
 
Sorry guys but i have a question..With a gaming market stuck in this kind of games what the people that don't play this stuff what will end playing on their UBER computers with 1000+ SP's and 50+ rops.
http://www.guru3d.com/news/npd--best-seling-games/
CS game like (COD4), higly popular RPG's and Sims.Am i get the feeling that sims will grow more than WOW in the long term?
IKEA Home stuff expansion pack ? ... Is Sims a world wide project supported by goverments to bring the teenagers into normal and controlling values like clubs, family and work ? WTH is going on? really?
 
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just to add even more confusion

Taipei (Taiwan) – AMD pushed Fusion as one of the main reasons to justify its acquisition of ATI. Since then, AMD’s finances have changed colors and are now deep in the red, the top management has changed, and Fusion still isn’t anything AMD wants to discuss in detail. But there are always “industry sources” and these sources have told us that Fusion is likely to be introduced as a half-node chip.

It appears that AMD’s engineers in Dresden, Markham and Sunnyvale have been making lots of trips to little island of Formosa lately - the home of contract manufacturer TSMC, which will be producing Fusion CPUs. Our sources indicated that both companies are quite busy laying out the productions scenarios of AMD’s first CPU+GPU chip.

The first Fusion processor is code-named Shrike, which will, if our sources are right, consist of a dual-core Phenom CPU and an ATI RV800 GPU core. This news is actually a big surprise, as Shrike was originally rumored to debut as a combination of a dual-core Kuma CPU and a RV710-based graphics unit. A few more quarters of development time gave AMD time to continue working on a low-end RV800-based core to be integrated with Fusion. RV800 chips will be DirectX 10.1 compliant and are expected to deliver a bit more than just a 55 nm-40 nm dieshrink.

While Shrike will debut as a 40 nm chip, the processor is scheduled to transition to 32 nm at the beginning of 2010 - not much later than Intel will introduce 32 nm - and serve as a stop-gap before the next-gen CPU core, code-named "Bulldozer" arrives. The Bulldozer-based chip, code-named “Falcon”, will debut with TSMC's 32nm SOI process, instead of the originally planned 45 nm.

As Fusion is shaping up right, we should expect the chip be become the first half-node CPU (between 45 and 32 nm) in a very long time.
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waver_01 said:
I hope so

if it doesn't though, they'll be dead :cry:
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Just like ati was suppose to die after they released R600? Looks like a $285 170w 4870 is owning up on the $400 240w GTX280. Also the phenoms with the new chipsets oc 3.4-3.5! Now im an intel fanboy but thats impressive. I know i can get 3.4 but my ram sux, need some new ram. :bleh:
 
So AMDs new strategy is so efficient that it will break moore's law by far, more than doubling performance in only half a year? I like it.
 
I wonder if their will be clock domains? or if they are going to clock those SP's way up there.

Is the goal to allow the alu's to do general processing stuff along side graphics duties how integrated is this thing going to be?
 
Although AMD and NVIDIA use TSMC services for the production of graphic chips, the first companies allow to improve the mastery rates of new technological . for example, AMD proposes to buyers 55 nm video chip from autumn last year, and NVIDIA is going to transfer basic products to this technical process only in the second-half of the present year. We already know that the following stage for TSMC partners will become the production of 40 nm graphic chips, which will be mastered at the beginning of 2009. Associate reports that AMD is assembled to present during the first quarter 2009 two 40 nm video chip : RV740 and RV870. The first will be the budget solution, for which the passage to the new technical process is the basic method for prime cost reduction. The chip RV870 will replace RV770 in one- and two-chip graphical solutions. From other side, AMD now do not produce large monolithic chips in the high-end segment , and it can rapidly change the video chip in the average price segment.
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Well nvidia might beat R700 with the GT200b, but the R870 should strike back. I defently see nvidia launching a dual GPU card in Q1 to compete, but i dont see nvidia getting to 40nm as quickly as ati.
 
SSXeon said:
Well nvidia might beat R700 with the GT200b, but the R870 should strike back. I defently see nvidia launching a dual GPU card in Q1 to compete, but i dont see nvidia getting to 40nm as quickly as ati.
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Looks like ATI will have another a payback time! :lol:
 
1. RV870 codename is not Little Dragon. That codename is right in some points, but its not RV870.

2. AMD said they will have a DX11 compatible GPU in H1 2009. Now its ur turn to guess which GPU it will be.
 
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