Got my DS lite

ragewars_sc said:
Maybe i will... i am afraid :D i told them to contact my bank :P If not.. i will use paypal.. next week :P
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Don't *EVER* photocopy your credit card!!!!! If they want you to verify your
card is genuine, there's that 3-digit number on the back of the card that is
proof that you have the card in hand.

Please, don't do it. You are asking for serious trouble. I work for a bank and
you would not believe the amount of fraud that goes on! If they won't accept
your internet transaction, then don't deal with them.

Nf.
 
I agree. I NEVER had to copy my CC at Lik-Sang. At the checkout you have to write a CC number and a 3 digit security code on the back of the card. That's it!
 
Night Fisher said:
Don't *EVER* photocopy your credit card!!!!! If they want you to verify your
card is genuine, there's that 3-digit number on the back of the card that is
proof that you have the card in hand.

Please, don't do it. You are asking for serious trouble. I work for a bank and
you would not believe the amount of fraud that goes on! If they won't accept
your internet transaction, then don't deal with them.

Nf.
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I'm curious, what exactly could they do with a photocopy of your card that they couldn't do with the normal details?

Given the number and security code, and the name and address you supply, they already have all they need to perform any number of customer not present transactions. All this does is attempt to cut down on the fraud of people using stolen information, ie people who don't have the card.
 
Yeah, plus lik sand are a really good and legit importing site. So i can't see them doing anything dodgy with your card. Though its still unusual.
 
SpeckledJim said:
I'm curious, what exactly could they do with a photocopy of your card that they couldn't do with the normal details?

Given the number and security code, and the name and address you supply, they already have all they need to perform any number of customer not present transactions. All this does is attempt to cut down on the fraud of people using stolen information, ie people who don't have the card.
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For starters, the signature is right on the card. It has your full name, likely
a bank logo, and some other details as well as your signature right on the thing.
That kind of information can be used to steal one's identity (which is a serious
problem).

Also, to have electronic data is one thing, but to have a photocopy of a real
card is another. One can easily replicate a fake card to look exactly as your
own with that kind of information.

Asking for a photocopy of your card is almost as bad as asking for the PIN
number of your bank card. You'd never give out your pin# would you??

Don't get me wrong, Lik-Sang is quite reputable, but it sounds like an individual
out is abusing their priveleges at Lik-Sang. Either that, or it's a fake e-mail.
My bank has warned of stuff like this. It's serious fraud!!!

Nf.
 
You can read about a very nasty little type of fraud called phishing. It's a
very seroius problem that they stress to us employees at the bank to be weary
of. It's real and it's a problem:

http://www.rbc.com/security/bulletinPhishing.html

No one should ever ask for sensitive information electronically. Your signature
is one of the most sensitive pieces of personal information you can give out.
Requesting out one's signature *AND* a photocopy of your credit card is
definitely a NO NO and should ring bells.

As I've said before, the 3-digit PIN on the back of your card is proof that you
physically have the card. It's a security measure that was created for everyone's
own benefit. NO one should ask for any other info, let alone your signature and
a photocopy of your card.

Nf.
 
Yes, I'm aware of phishing scams, etc. As for the photocopy, it strikes me that they simply don't need that to create a fake physical card. They already have all they need to do that.

The signature on it can simply be added by the faker. They don't need to reproduce it just like yours, they need to be able to reproduce it quickly and convincingly themselves when they use it, and since it can't be verified as your signature by the people who will look at it, it will still work.

Not sure how the 3 digit number is really proof of anything either. If people can acquire CC numbers, can they not also acquire the 3 digit security codes as well?

You may as well be just as paranoid about your card when you use it in a restaurant or similar place, when they disappear with the card for a few moments.

I'd also question just how useful it would be to physically create a card. It's surely more risk to use a CC number that way for fraud, when it could be used just as easily over the phone and online. Couple that with the fact that cards now routinely carry a chip on them, with presumably encrypted information, and it becomes an even less attractive option.

Here in the UK we have switched to using a PIN number instead of a signature, and I notice they are not asking for something like a PIN number. If they did of course, I would find that alarming.
 
They accepten my order.. i have no idee what to do next :D They can do manny things with my card and that but i check my balance daily and.. if i see something roungh.. i notice my bank.. until i recive my ds lite with Metroid... :P
Night fisher.. thaks for all the details.. i really hope is not my case.. i really respect Link-sang and thats is the main reason why i did what i did! The e-mail was not fake bc on theyr page i was noticed i need a manual activation or something like that!
 
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It's not paranoia to use safety and awareness. You wouldn't believe the
amount of security patches our computer center at the bank has to go through
each couple of weeks just to keep up with fraudsters.

Anyhow...

This is getting out of hand. Just remember that information is not as easlity
acquired, electronically, as one may think. It's like money, it takes information
to get *MORE* info. Remember too, it's just an e-mail response. A malicious
person often has little to no info on you, but poses like they do. It may well be
a person who somehow got wind of the transaction attempt who doesn't have any
info on you other than your e-mail address. It's why many companies reveal some
info (eg: first and lastfew digits of your card) when they send order acknowledgement
e-mails. It shows some indication (not fulll proof) that they are genuine as some
of the info is information you provided earlier, thus a match.

Basic thing to remember, if a request from a merchant (or supposed merchant)
sounds strange to you, call your bank's helpesk and find out it's okay to adhere
to that request. They know the proper procedures for online transactions and
are fully aware of the latest forms of fraud.

Nf.
 
ragewars_sc said:
They accepten my order.. i have no idee what to do next :D They can do manny things with my card and that but i check my balance daily and.. if i see something roungh.. i notice my bank.. until i recive my ds lite with Metroid... :P
Night fisher.. thaks for all the details.. i really hope is not my case.. i really respect Link-sang and thats is the main reason why i did what i did! The e-mail was not fake bc on theyr page i was noticed i need a manual activation or something like that!
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I really hope all goes well. You might want to inform your bank of the strange
request and ask them if it's a new practice.

Regardless, enjoy the DS-Lite when you get it!

Nf.
 
Night Fisher said:
It's not paranoia to use safety and awareness. You wouldn't believe the
amount of security patches our computer center at the bank has to go through
each couple of weeks just to keep up with fraudsters.
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No, everyone should be aware of how they do business online, I just think it's unwise to confuse an attempt to prevent fraud with fraud itself. I don't doubt Lik-Sang have had their fair share of orders placed with solen information.

Anyway this has veered a long way off topic.
 
SpeckledJim said:
No, everyone should be aware of how they do business online, I just think it's unwise to confuse an attempt to prevent fraud with fraud itself. I don't doubt Lik-Sang have had their fair share of orders placed with solen information.

Anyway this has veered a long way off topic.
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That is why there are tons of solutions available to both the consumer and
the merchant to thwart fraud. It is in everyone's interest that everyone,
which includes the public, the merchant, and the financial institutions, are
able to trust secured transactions online. In order for this to happen, there
are some important measures that are agreed upon:

1. The financial institution will cover any fraud that is due to a breach of established online security.
2. The consumer is required to use only authorized secure online products for transactions.
3. The merchant is required to provide the authorized secure online products for the consumer.

#3 is important in this case because, if a company is wrongfully defrauded
using secure online products that the banks/visa/mastercard/etc provided,
their "losses" would be covered by said institution. There is no reason to
go beyond these strict measures by asking for a person's signature or a
"photocopy" of a card, unless said financial institution has made it a
requirement. Basically, no company has any right to go beyond the established
procedures of handling personal information, and not one shread of personal
info (eg: signature) beyond what is necessary for the transaction should be
divulged . No company, for example, should ask for your mother's maiden
name.

Anyhow, I really don't wish to continue crapping this thead. I'm only wriiting this
stuff because it's important info for folks who may or may not be aware of it. I
have spent over 16 years working for a financial institution, so believe me when I
say don't give out more info than what's necessary.

Nf.
 
I jost got mine.. bt i have some problems with my rooter... i get 52000 code error :(( Anyway.. this is sweet!!
Anyone knows if i can use yahoo messenger on this beauty? :D
 
Quiestion.. with charger is good for ds lite?? I dont have adapter 110w-->240w and it sucs.. i'vr buyed some chargers for ds.. and after i notice they are difrent:)))
 
ragewars_sc said:
Quiestion.. with charger is good for ds lite?? I dont have adapter 110w-->240w and it sucs.. i'vr buyed some chargers for ds.. and after i notice they are difrent:)))
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Why dont you buy the official one for DS? It will fit on Lite.
Here in Greece it costs 19 euros.
So it will cost less than 15 pounds in UK, I believe.
 
Zakkorn said:
Why dont you buy the official one for DS? It will fit on Lite.
Here in Greece it costs 19 euros.
So it will cost less than 15 pounds in UK, I believe.
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The DS lite and the DS use different chargers, you will need a 220-110 convertor, either that or buy a usb charger from liksang for the DS lite if they have any.
 
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