Vega latest road map and press release!

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jjjayb said:
Umm. You do realize that chart isn't showing FPS boost up to 30% right? That 30% performance boost is a chart of "bytes per frame savings". What are you expecting that will do for FPS?
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Less work to deal with usually means the GPU renders the scene faster unless limited by something else?
 
We just need to see the actual benchmarks. There's no point speculating at this point. I'm feeling a bit more favorable about Vega again since it seems the TDP/board power comparison was not apples to apples. So, Vega isn't the insane power hog that it at first seemed. That being said, I doubt it's as fast as the 1080 Ti.

But we're only a few days from knowing for sure. There's no real reason to argue pointlessly about it, just wait until the actual results are in.
 
Well gibbo from OCUK has just confirmed that RX Vega will go on PREORDER from 2 pm on 14 August LMFAO. NO shipping date currently available. So if this is UK retailer wide it looks like the UK will get virtually no stock and presumably any stock that might be available will be severely price gouged ouch.

Looks like us Brits and Europeans will have to wait for the AIB cards in mid September if we’re lucky enough to get one then. Oh well plan B in getting a 1080ti is beginning to look more appealing I’m afraid. Looks like AMD’s story about waiting to launch Vega till they had enough stock was pure BS.
 
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And how many 1080TI's do you have on hand to compare to your FE's that we haven't already seen benchmarks of? ;-/
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how about you :hmm:

and your mid range 1080 8gb sli

what was your last ati/amd card anyway if you ever owned one ?

as you sure know nothing about rx vega like all of us
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we will see soon about vega in a week to 10 days it will either be close to a 1080 ti or it won't


but from all reports so far it will be faster than a 1080 8gb
 
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Man, these threads are so painful to read. I think I will just read other forums for real vega news. Sheesh.
 
enough guys, bans are gonna be handed out shortly here. Ill be deciding who gets to eat crow if i hear anymore bs like that.

As always feel free to test my patience tho
 
@md_Guy said:
remind us again what Vega based cards do you currently have that you can talk about 1st hand knowledge.. ?

.. yeah I thought so ;-/
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Yea, I've got access to 9. (one died.. :lol:)

Basically.. gamers are screwed courtesy of miners. I wish AMD had a way of saying.. "Warranty void if used for cryptocurrency mining as that is commercial use of the card made for non-commercial purposes"

Surely the driver can detect when a crypto mining operation is done and maybe trigger a switch in the cards's BIOS?

Kind of like how Samsung did their "KNOX Counter".

Something funny for all these miners though in the USA.. You have to claim that on your income taxes as capital gains. lol. If you don't and are caught.. lol...
 
I love dual GPU cards. Such a technical masterpiece. Too bad games these days don't really benefit from two cards. Miss my 295x2
 
Nagorak said:
We just need to see the actual benchmarks. There's no point speculating at this point. I'm feeling a bit more favorable about Vega again since it seems the TDP/board power comparison was not apples to apples. So, Vega isn't the insane power hog that it at first seemed. That being said, I doubt it's as fast as the 1080 Ti.

But we're only a few days from knowing for sure. There's no real reason to argue pointlessly about it, just wait until the actual results are in.
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It's what I've been saying in quite a lot of posts, to wait for benchmark results and see how close things get between both and unless my memory fails me, if we're down to 10~15% gaps then in practical real world terms, what's too slow on Vega is still too slow on GTX1080TI to be playable, which is what makes the real difference in the user experience.

bill dennison said:
how about you :hmm:

and your mid range 1080 8gb sli

what was your last ati/amd card anyway if you ever owned one ?

as you sure know nothing about rx vega like all of us
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we will see soon about vega in a week to 10 days it will either be close to a 1080 ti or it won't


but from all reports so far it will be faster than a 1080 8gb
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It was funny as hell when he criticized my multi GPU comment and I just responded with a "LOL", given that for the past 20 years, only on one occasion did I own a setup with a single video ( a Matrox G400, so a long time ago), and every single other setup have been Multi-GPU setups with either 3dfx or ATI/AMD or Nvidia with 2 to 4 cards every time.


Taking said comment literally and completely out of context, since I had stated that parallelism and adding a lot more functional units of every type, is also a function of fabrication processes allowing the transistor budget to do so, so what once took several GPU's was all integrated into a single one.....No Multi GPU support required in drivers, Windows hardware detection issues, software limitations or developer programing gymnastics required.....



Since most fabrication process shrinks are behind us, with the 10nm and maybe 7nm process jumps still left, and if we still need major performance uplifts on the road to making everything have the visuals seen in movies special effects but done in real time, multi GPU may make a comeback once fab process shrinks are exhausted.




Dave said:
I love dual GPU cards. Such a technical masterpiece. Too bad games these days don't really benefit from two cards. Miss my 295x2
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Owned that one Myself, and an Nvidia 7950GX2 as well......Scaling wise, the performance can still be pretty good from one to 2 cards, but depends on the effects used....Fillrate and memory bandwidth bound workloads scale the best overall.
 
The worst in all of this is that I can still plug in the existing Quad R290x 8GB cards into a thread ripper board + CPU, and see if there's still more performance left over that simply wasn't seen with my slower clocked / Lower IPC Cpu's they're currently running with......


Gaming wise, i'm still not in any trouble whatsoever even at 4K resolutions with any existing game I play, with everything going 60+ Fps so it would actually be smart to get the motherboard + faster CPU, and try out my existing cards and only later on get faster cards once they're needed on even more demanding games, or when I move to a 5k screen.....I'm in no way dependent on how Vega performs ASAP basically.
 
These guys who do this professionally, let's just say they are hackers more than you'd think . . . Since ours [GPUs] are based on OpenCL, they can go in there and manipulate and do things that are outside of our bounds. . . . That can really increase the hash rate.
There are public numbers [hash rate]. . . And there are private hash rate numbers that we see and just kind of go whoa. . . It's kind of crazy what you would see from crypto-currency guys that do this for a living. They hire tons of software folks . . . And they hack into the firmware.

We would never disable anything in our GPU that would hurt anything anywhere, especially for gaming. It's a very delicate balance as you look at hindering anything, especially in compute . . . You would have to hinder something in compute, which would then hinder your game performance, or other alternatives for other industries that might be using our gaming cards to solve other things . . .
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This is in a different ball park...

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/vega-ethereum-mining-performance-rumor,35160.html
 
For those that already own Ryzen setups, this is a question for you:


Now as far as I can tell from all the available boards for thread ripper, they all seem to max out at 128 GB of ram on 8 memory slots, across 4 memory channels so that would be 2 memory slots for each memory channel on the CPU itself.....Am I to assume that like intel chips, best possible sustained memory clocks are to be achieved if only 1 memory module is used per channel?


In this case, to hit the 128GB maximum and get the best possible performance out of the chip, i'd use four 32GB modules of the fastest clocked ram that has the lowest latency possible?....Correct?
 
shadow001 said:
For those that already own Ryzen setups, this is a question for you:


Now as far as I can tell from all the available boards for thread ripper, they all seem to max out at 128 GB of ram on 8 memory slots, across 4 memory channels so that would be 2 memory slots for each memory channel on the CPU itself.....Am I to assume that like intel chips, best possible sustained memory clocks are to be achieved if only 1 memory module is used per channel?


In this case, to hit the 128GB maximum and get the best possible performance out of the chip, i'd use four 32GB modules of the fastest clocked ram that has the lowest latency possible?....Correct?
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https://community.amd.com/community...4/tips-for-building-a-better-amd-ryzen-system

https://community.amd.com/community...emory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings
 
badsykes said:
https://community.amd.com/community...4/tips-for-building-a-better-amd-ryzen-system

https://community.amd.com/community...emory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings
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Appreciate the links thanks.....With that in mind, found the fastest possible memory with the lowest possible timings, but limited to 64GB capacities ( 4 X 16GB modules ):


http://www.corsair.com/en-us/dominator-platinum-series-64gb-4-x-16gb-ddr4-dram-3466mhz-c16-memory-kit-cmd64gx4m4b3466c16



And the only motherboards that seem to have memory support up to those kinds of speeds are Asrocks:


https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157784


Or MSI's:


https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144079


Up to 3600Mhz clock speeds in either case and the same capacity, both supporting 4 way SLI /Crossfire but the MSI is quite a bit cheaper though...
 
Back to Vega we go.........In the end, all I want is a tight race simply to encourage competition even in terms of prices, no matter what hardware one picks, so it benefits everyone no matter what their budget is......win / win for everyone.


As I'm sure a lot have noticed ( :bleh: ) , I have little tolerance for individuals with views so tilted to one side, where solid points brought up against said favourite company simply get ignored, that from now on I won't bother to answer to them......It's just a waste of my time.
 
Wow just seen this on the Sapphire website http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=6BC8485A-C1BD-46C3-A6C5-32BB65B3DFF0&lang=eng

For water cooling they're recommending a 1,000 watt PSU whoa that's insane for one graphics card. Even for the air cooled reference models they're recommending 750 watt FFS. Maybe Vega is really that power hungry but holy sh*t I'm not buying a new PSU just to buy a WC Vega card :lol: Hopefully the AIB's can do something with the air cooling that sorts this out.
 
shadow001 said:
Back to Vega we go.........In the end, all I want is a tight race simply to encourage competition even in terms of prices, no matter what hardware one picks, so it benefits everyone no matter what their budget is......win / win for everyone.


As I'm sure a lot have noticed ( :bleh: ) , I have little tolerance for individuals with views so tilted to one side, where solid points brought up against said favourite company simply get ignored, that from now on I won't bother to answer to them......It's just a waste of my time.
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Pot. Kettle.
 
LordHawkwind said:
Wow just seen this on the Sapphire website http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=6BC8485A-C1BD-46C3-A6C5-32BB65B3DFF0&lang=eng

For water cooling they're recommending a 1,000 watt PSU whoa that's insane for one graphics card. Even for the air cooled reference models they're recommending 750 watt FFS. Maybe Vega is really that power hungry but holy sh*t I'm not buying a new PSU just to buy a WC Vega card :lol: Hopefully the AIB's can do something with the air cooling that sorts this out.
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Funny thing is that in that same Vega page and if you scroll down a bit, it says 3 and 4 way Crossfire is supported.....:lol:
 
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