Seemed to have answered your last post regarding tiling in the most unbiased way possible, when it comes to tiling and as stated in the slide that it reduces the byte per frame workload, but varies by game.....We just don't know by how much the Fps might go up.
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Seemed to have answered your last post regarding tiling in the most unbiased way possible, when it comes to tiling and as stated in the slide that it reduces the byte per frame workload, but varies by game.....We just don't know by how much the Fps might go up.
Well there's 2400 watts in my power budget between a pair of 1200 watts Corsairs, so power isn't the issue and given that I am getting that new corsair 900D case for both practicality / looks and to solve a really slow leak on the current build, i'm not really sure i'll get Vega's at all as this point and concentrate on the thread ripper motherboard / CPU upgrade to see if my current GPU's still have more to give....I think they do and still handle anything I play at 4K just fine.....Here's what the setup will look like:
Same color of tubing, but with a 360mm/240mm radiator combination at the bottom with one PSU, and the second PSU at the top with another really thick 240mm rad in push / pull at the top just for the CPU.....The tanks will be different though:
The top cover unlocks to make it easy to fill up the loops ( one for the CPU and the other for the GPU ) :
pax
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Nice. Tho personally Id go with white. I guess after 10-15 years of black cases I got as sick of them as I was of the beige/yellowish ones before that lasted for ~20 years...
Mind you dont get the cheapo Thermaltake Snow edition ones. Hoping the Coolermaster HAF 500 comes in white due in October.
Mind you dont get the cheapo Thermaltake Snow edition ones. Hoping the Coolermaster HAF 500 comes in white due in October.
LordHawkwind
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Funny thing is that in that same Vega page and if you scroll down a bit, it says 3 and 4 way Crossfire is supported.....
Shadow I will answer Exposed's question for you; there are NO DX12 games that support tri/quad cfx and going forward there will be ZERO games supporting it. Why because of the cost of the studios time, resources and cash. At best, as you've already said, 0.0001% of gamers make use of tri/quad cards. Nvidia has at least 70% of the dGPU market and they have consigned tri/quad SLI to history and are not supporting it anymore. So that market has shrunk by 70%
it won't even be a topic of issue in any games studio fact.Also remember RX Vega is not just a gaming card but can do some other compute tasks and that's why threadripper still supports tri/quad cfx and that just about sums it up. You really need to move on from your "wish" of tri/quad cfx support and accept it's not going to happen in gaming going forward.
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Corsair 900D already ordered and on the way, and the same applies to the heat killer tanks along with holding supports.....160$ a pop and the case is 500$+.
The main reason is that I get to find out just how much the R290x 8GB have left, and the remaining parts of the system are installed + wiring and radiators and tubing, as well as the O/S installed and all other software, so the eventual swap to better cards regardless if they're Vega's or something released later and even faster is super easy.....Drain the GPU loop, disconnect 2 hoses and unplug the power connectors, remove the cards and install the new ones in the reverse order, once their individual blocks are installed.
Vega blocks from EK won't show up until the end of august anyhow, and i'm still waiting for the thread ripper block from them too, so I can get a head start with the build with the spare parts I have and the ones on order ( the corsair ram listed above is ordered too), as well as those that will be available in the next few days ( thread ripper 16 core +motherboard )......Still need some parts from the current build, but trying to make the transition as fast as possible basically.
Shadow I will answer Exposed's question for you; there are NO DX12 games that support tri/quad cfx and going forward there will be ZERO games supporting it. Why because of the cost of the studios time, resources and cash. At best, as you've already said, 0.0001% of gamers make use of tri/quad cards. Nvidia has at least 70% of the dGPU market and they have consigned tri/quad SLI to history and are not supporting it anymore. So that market has shrunk by 70%
Also remember RX Vega is not just a gaming card but can do some other compute tasks and that's why threadripper still supports tri/quad cfx and that just about sums it up. You really need to move on from your "wish" of tri/quad cfx support and accept it's not going to happen in gaming going forward.
One more reason to stick with the current R290x's I guess.....They've been with me for nearly 4 years and are still kicking ass in any game, even at 4k....If we're really limited to 2 way, there would need to be a 2 way setup that could not just beat my current 4 way, but humiliate it in performance in a big way.....Such setup doesn't exist, neither Vega or GTX1080TI are it....We must wait longer still for that to happen.
In which universe does a 290x run in quad fire in ANY game and beats a 1080Ti SLI at 4k?
I looked up a quick benchmark between a quadfire 295x2 in Battlefield 4 Ultra and it gets beaten by a SINGLE 1080ti at 4k.
http://www.digitalstorm.com/unlocked/4-way-quad-crossfire-amd-r9-295x2-benchmarks-at-4k-idnum228/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11180/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-review/8
I don't know why you're embellishing non existant quad fire performance in games that don't even support them?
78 Fps in quad in a review made over 3 years ago, versus 99 Fps with a single GTX1080TI on a much more recent review of the same game.
I did say having difficulty playing games at 4K did I not.....78 Fps isn't a slide show.
Second, I did say a dual setup that could humiliate it did I not?....As stated many times, I work by the power of 2x as fast before making upgrades.....Wake me up when you're doing 160+ Fps at the same game under the same settings using 2 cards.
This will be my last reply to you.....
I did say having difficulty playing games at 4K did I not.....78 Fps isn't a slide show.
Second, I did say a dual setup that could humiliate it did I not?....As stated many times, I work by the power of 2x as fast before making upgrades.....Wake me up when you're doing 160+ Fps at the same game under the same settings using 2 cards.
This will be my last reply to you.....
78 Fps in quad in a review made over 3 years ago, versus 99 Fps with a single GTX1080TI on a much more recent review of the same game.
I did say having difficulty playing games at 4K did I not.....78 Fps isn't a slide show.
Second, I did say a dual setup that could humiliate it did I not?....As stated many times, I work by the power of 2x as fast before making upgrades.....Wake me up when you're doing 160+ Fps at the same game under the same settings using 2 cards.
This will be my last reply to you.....
I'm pretty certain a 1080Ti SLI would thoroughly embarrass a quad fire 290x at 4k. And that is best case scenario in those few games that do support quad fire. The vast majority of other games will only support SLI/Crossfire, not 3 or 4 way configurations. If 1080Ti SLI already "humiliates" quad 290x at 4k, what do you think a 1080Ti SLI would do to those same quad 290x's that can only run in crossfire?
I don't know why you're playing games. Even you know this, which is why last year you were contemplating purchasing two TitanXP's to replace your 290x's but never pulled the trigger. At this point I seriously think you're playing games (aka trolling).
Coming from a guy using reviews from 3 years ago, and completely ignoring the much more extreme cooling I use, along with much faster CPU's / ram than available 3 years ago.....That's hilarious really.
That wouldn't change anything in your ****ed up mind though.....
Coming from a guy using reviews from 3 years ago, and completely ignoring the much more extreme cooling I use, along with much faster CPU's / ram than available 3 years ago.....That's hilarious really.
That wouldn't change anything in your ****ed up mind though.....
What does this have to do with:
- A 290x, be it in single, dual, or quad, cannot be clocked high enough to compete with a 1080Ti in similar configuration.
- Quad fire support is few and far in between games. Has nothing to do with how high you've clocked your CPU/GPU
Like I said, you've acknowledged this yourself last year when you were seriously contemplating upgrading to Titan XP's. Trying to hide that easy fact under the rug just because you want to argue (aka troll) with me is
What does this have to do with:
- A 290x, be it in single, dual, or quad, cannot be clocked high enough to compete with a 1080Ti in similar configuration.
- Quad fire support is few and far in between games. Has nothing to do with how high you've clocked your CPU/GPU
Like I said, you've acknowledged this yourself last year when you were seriously contemplating upgrading to Titan XP's. Trying to hide that easy fact under the rug just because you want to argue (aka troll) with me is
Needs to be an apples to apples comparison with all other hardware that can make a difference being the same, apart from the GPU's of course, using the latest drivers obviously and the same O/S and games, just like a proper hardware review?
Do I need to draw a picture perhaps?.....
Needs to be an apples to apples comparison with all other hardware that can make a difference being the same, apart from the GPU's of course, using the latest drivers obviously and the same O/S and games, just like a proper hardware review?
Do I need to draw a picture perhaps?.....
So you think there's a universe in which a 290x is somehow comparable to a 1080Ti whether it be in single, dual or quad?
Nagorak
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Wow just seen this on the Sapphire website http://www.sapphiretech.com/productdetial.asp?pid=6BC8485A-C1BD-46C3-A6C5-32BB65B3DFF0&lang=eng
For water cooling they're recommending a 1,000 watt PSU whoa that's insane for one graphics card. Even for the air cooled reference models they're recommending 750 watt FFS. Maybe Vega is really that power hungry but holy sh*t I'm not buying a new PSU just to buy a WC Vega card
All these companies always suggest a PSU way in excess of what's necessary. I think it's their way of weeding out junk PSUs. A crappy PSU rated for 700w might not be able to actually provide stable power under heavy load, whereas a good one should be fine. Meanwhile even a crap 1000w PSU is likely to be able to handle it, just because it's nominally made to be capable of putting out 1000w (on top of that 1000w PSUs are so high end that there probably aren't a lot of really crappy ones to begin with).
Even if the total board power of the water cooled Vega is 400w, you shouldn't need 600w for the rest of the system. The CPU and everything else probably doesn't even draw 200w under gaming. Unlike GPUs, CPU power usage has been dropping over the years. With my Ryzen 1700 system, if I overclocked it to the absolute max my system draws 230w and that is in P95 small FFTs which is almost a power virus type load. If overclocked to a more reasonable level even that only draws 164w from the wall. A game would never load your CPU to more than a fraction of what P95 small FFTs does, even if your CPU is at "100%". I don't have the equipment necessary to easily isolate just CPU power when gaming, but I doubt my CPU and motherboard draw more than about 100w in the average game.
So you think there's a universe in which a 290x is somehow comparable to a 1080Ti whether it be in single, dual or quad?
Since I've lived with it for the last 4 years, every day in an huge amount of games thru dozens of driver updates, and now may make them even faster still with more CPU power and way faster ram, i'd like to believe that I know what they can and can't do......It's a crazy thought I know... Reviews on the internet beats that kind of experience i'm sure.....
There's that, but also leaving enough reserve to allow the PSU to operate in the long run.....Killed a Silverstone strider 1500 watt PSU running a quad 7970 setup simply because the entire system was consistently pulling 1300~1400 watts, despite the PSU using the best components ( it cost me over 400$ at the time )......Eventually one of the rails just let go after a little over a year...
Went dual PSU's since then splitting the load evenly between both, with one modified with it's own on/off switch on the front panel.....
lazyx
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Yup, usually the one calling other people fanboys is the biggest one himself.
Funny in itself when having owned hardware, including GPU's, from companies that aren't even in business any longer, but whatever floats your boat...
lazyx
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Funny in itself when having owned hardware, including GPU's, from companies that aren't even in business any longer, but whatever floats your boat...
Ya, that's also one of the arguments used by fanatics.
"Oh, I owned other products by rival company's.".... "Thus it makes me not bias."
You should ask Bill about his Intel cpu collection! LMAO
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