g80 launch date speculation

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looks like Oct. for the luanch to be a bit more then likely

http://www.forbes.com/2006/08/18/nvidia-0818markets10.html?partner=yahootix


Bear Stearns expects Nvidia's competitive lead in desktop GPUs to remain "firmly intact." The company's next product, the G80, will launch ahead of the competition. The next generation of GPUs should boost margins by 1% to 2% over current products.

Interesting about the margins, its a bit vague but maybe the g80 isn't on .9?
 
nah stock analysts tend not to pull numbers out of thin air, they can get in trouble by misleading investors like that. Its one thing to presume something based on information they are given, and another to give specifics that are incorrect, they might be talking about lower end chips though.
 
My early instinct is that G80 is going to be in trouble against R600, but here's hoping G80 brings enough to the table to at least make it worth having waited for over going with a 7950GX2.
 
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33739


Why is Nvidia being so quite? hmmmm.....


They are not releasing any sort of spec, not even a hint. This either tells me.....

A) their spec is not as good as R600 and don't want the public panicing and making conclusions yet.

B) they are hiding some important key features from ATI.

C) their is no such thing as G80.:bleh:

D) G80 is actully a TV tuner card.
 
Sadly, you guys have more info than nvnews [although mike c. would delete any post nvidia asked him to, so its kinda hard to tell]. I frequent NVNEWS and know nothing about g80 so far.
 
My early instinct is that G80 is going to be in trouble against R600, but here's hoping G80 brings enough to the table to at least make it worth having waited for over going with a 7950GX2.


Well depends on the rumored specs we look at, the 32 pipe version of a g80 will spank a 64 shader alu r600, but if the r600 is a 64 array with 128 ALU's its going to be the other way around.

And yes that 128 ALU's in a 4 x 16 (2 ALU's per array) array configuration is a possibility with 600-650 million transistors on the r600.

For now I'm just going to throw out the rumored specs from both camps and start a new. Personally I think both cards will come out very close to each other, and these rumored specs are just way out of wack in that one or the other IHV has a substantial performance advantage.
 
http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=33739


Why is Nvidia being so quite? hmmmm.....


They are not releasing any sort of spec, not even a hint. This either tells me.....

A) their spec is not as good as R600 and don't want the public panicing and making conclusions yet.

B) they are hiding some important key features from ATI.

C) their is no such thing as G80.:bleh:

D) G80 is actully a TV tuner card.


:lol:

The g70 and g71 specs were very well hidden till the last few weeks of the launch, no suprise there. As ATi's r520 was too, the r580 was a different story since the r530 was avialable it gave alot of clues into the r580.
 
Since the NV4x. Nvidia has done a very very good job of keeping the press speculating on about its upcoming products. And they are very good at hiding the data until the last moment.
 
Since the NV4x. Nvidia has done a very very good job of keeping the press speculating on about its upcoming products. And they are very good at hiding the data until the last moment.

well thats besides the point that they already blabbed that they holding off on unifide tech. They also already stated that it would have half a billion tranns as well. To me, that's releasing some key specs.;)
 
well thats besides the point that they already blabbed that they holding off on unifide tech. They also already stated that it would have half a billion tranns as well. To me, that's releasing some key specs.;)

It's not beside the point. Performance of an MPU/ASIC cannot be derived by transistor count. It can, however, be derived from the functional unit count (ALUs, ROPs, TMUs, etc) and clockspeed. We know R600 has 64 of some kind of functional unit (I say "some kind because we don't know exactly which one it is, but it's certainly not ROPs so either TMUs or ALUs, and ALUs is the obvious choice here as well), and we know its clockspeed will be higher than R580 but won't break 1GHz, so we can approximate a performance range relative to R580. You can't do the same for G80.
 
Heh, I remember when a TMU was a whole seperate chip, and even having one was a big deal. Voodoo 2 anybody?
 
Just imagine, in 8 years we may be looking back at now and saying the same thing about how primitive it was when everybody had seperate GPU/CPU systems.
 
It looks like neither Vista nor DX10 games will be available when either card comes out, it will make for an interesting race. One card may well obliterate the other DX10 and we'd never know, but they could be equal or even in reversed places in DX9.

Then again not that it really matters, by the time DX10 games actually show up they'll probably both be too slow to play them well ;)
 
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